1 00:00:07,349 --> 00:00:04,230 hello hello everybody 2 00:00:11,350 --> 00:00:07,359 thank you for joining me i am 3 00:00:12,950 --> 00:00:11,360 let's just wait for i'm sorry i'm new to 4 00:00:16,230 --> 00:00:12,960 this so i'm just checking my settings 5 00:00:20,150 --> 00:00:16,240 and stuff 6 00:00:24,470 --> 00:00:22,950 here we go guys welcome to another video 7 00:00:27,269 --> 00:00:24,480 like i said i'm new to this 8 00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:27,279 i'm doing this it's completely not what 9 00:00:30,070 --> 00:00:28,000 i'm used to 10 00:00:31,189 --> 00:00:30,080 but i am here tonight with mr max 11 00:00:32,870 --> 00:00:31,199 muskowitz so 12 00:00:34,389 --> 00:00:32,880 i'm gonna bring max in straight away 13 00:00:37,510 --> 00:00:34,399 let's not wait around 14 00:00:40,430 --> 00:00:37,520 here he is boom 15 00:00:42,150 --> 00:00:40,440 max hello sir hello vincent 16 00:00:45,990 --> 00:00:42,160 congratulations 17 00:00:49,510 --> 00:00:46,000 podcast man 18 00:00:52,630 --> 00:00:49,520 thank you my friend thank you yeah 19 00:00:55,270 --> 00:00:52,640 well how does it feel it feels 20 00:00:57,350 --> 00:00:55,280 good it feels a bit strange i'm not used 21 00:00:58,389 --> 00:00:57,360 to i'm used to going live on instagram 22 00:01:00,709 --> 00:00:58,399 that's something i've been doing for a 23 00:01:01,430 --> 00:01:00,719 while this just feels a little bit more 24 00:01:04,390 --> 00:01:01,440 pressure 25 00:01:05,990 --> 00:01:04,400 but hey i'll get used to it and uh yeah 26 00:01:08,390 --> 00:01:06,000 thank you for joining me man 27 00:01:09,590 --> 00:01:08,400 any time or a brother any time so it's 28 00:01:12,469 --> 00:01:09,600 going to be quite a relaxed 29 00:01:13,429 --> 00:01:12,479 discussion i've got a drink and we're 30 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:13,439 just gonna chat 31 00:01:23,830 --> 00:01:19,830 [Laughter] 32 00:01:25,990 --> 00:01:23,840 cheers cheers brother clink 33 00:01:26,870 --> 00:01:26,000 hey it's good to see people here in the 34 00:01:28,710 --> 00:01:26,880 chat as well 35 00:01:30,469 --> 00:01:28,720 thank you for joining us guys and 36 00:01:31,510 --> 00:01:30,479 apologies if we have any technical 37 00:01:33,749 --> 00:01:31,520 issues 38 00:01:35,510 --> 00:01:33,759 uh um my internet service provider is 39 00:01:37,109 --> 00:01:35,520 terrible at the moment 40 00:01:39,190 --> 00:01:37,119 my internet comes through really old 41 00:01:40,069 --> 00:01:39,200 copper lines i've not got fibre optic 42 00:01:45,190 --> 00:01:40,079 yet so please 43 00:01:50,789 --> 00:01:47,350 dude it feels like that man it feels 44 00:01:54,389 --> 00:01:53,190 yeah yeah yeah you got you got the 45 00:01:57,429 --> 00:01:54,399 landlines huh 46 00:01:59,510 --> 00:01:57,439 well yeah 47 00:02:00,950 --> 00:01:59,520 you know this the streamyard stuff it's 48 00:02:04,230 --> 00:02:00,960 it's it's really uh 49 00:02:05,270 --> 00:02:04,240 hey wilfred this screamyard stuff is 50 00:02:08,949 --> 00:02:05,280 really uh 51 00:02:12,470 --> 00:02:08,959 very avant-garde but you know 52 00:02:13,830 --> 00:02:12,480 you probably need a very very strong 53 00:02:17,030 --> 00:02:13,840 connection because i do have some 54 00:02:19,990 --> 00:02:17,040 problems with the with the delay or the 55 00:02:22,550 --> 00:02:20,000 uh you know it it goes black sometimes 56 00:02:25,110 --> 00:02:22,560 for me but um all right okay 57 00:02:26,550 --> 00:02:25,120 when i tried uh the cable it actually 58 00:02:26,790 --> 00:02:26,560 worked much better but you know you have 59 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:26,800 to 60 00:02:32,550 --> 00:02:30,160 have the isdn cable yeah i've got such a 61 00:02:34,790 --> 00:02:32,560 strange setup i won't go into it but 62 00:02:36,550 --> 00:02:34,800 hey it's working scott thank you scott 63 00:02:38,229 --> 00:02:36,560 has just chimed in picture and sound is 64 00:02:41,670 --> 00:02:38,239 great we're rolling man 65 00:02:42,710 --> 00:02:41,680 so you're a man's car yeah so this is 66 00:02:43,670 --> 00:02:42,720 really meant to be kind of me 67 00:02:45,030 --> 00:02:43,680 interviewing you 68 00:02:47,589 --> 00:02:45,040 but i think it's going to be more of a 69 00:02:49,270 --> 00:02:47,599 chat but i mean we've got to talk about 70 00:02:50,309 --> 00:02:49,280 what you've been doing recently man i 71 00:02:52,869 --> 00:02:50,319 mean 72 00:02:53,430 --> 00:02:52,879 luella is on no for a second time harry 73 00:02:56,550 --> 00:02:53,440 reid 74 00:03:00,149 --> 00:02:56,560 i mean dude you've been killing it man 75 00:03:01,990 --> 00:03:00,159 sean gail sure god this the list goes on 76 00:03:04,309 --> 00:03:02,000 my friend 77 00:03:06,390 --> 00:03:04,319 that was the last one actually yeah well 78 00:03:09,830 --> 00:03:06,400 and chris christina obviously uh 79 00:03:12,390 --> 00:03:09,840 last night yeah yesterday yeah yeah yeah 80 00:03:14,309 --> 00:03:12,400 she's a warrior i mean you always seem 81 00:03:15,910 --> 00:03:14,319 to you always seem to get 82 00:03:17,509 --> 00:03:15,920 real valuable little chunks of 83 00:03:19,030 --> 00:03:17,519 information out of all these people as 84 00:03:20,869 --> 00:03:19,040 well which is 85 00:03:22,070 --> 00:03:20,879 i don't know how you do it man it's just 86 00:03:26,630 --> 00:03:22,080 something i am 87 00:03:29,030 --> 00:03:26,640 i want to be like i i really 88 00:03:31,190 --> 00:03:29,040 enjoy what i do i think that's that's it 89 00:03:33,270 --> 00:03:31,200 you know i'm having a lot of fun 90 00:03:34,789 --> 00:03:33,280 and i'm i'm i'm really really uh 91 00:03:38,229 --> 00:03:34,799 interested into the subject 92 00:03:41,670 --> 00:03:38,239 and uh i have 93 00:03:44,309 --> 00:03:41,680 really no shame 94 00:03:46,309 --> 00:03:44,319 in the weird way i just asked that's so 95 00:03:49,110 --> 00:03:46,319 good man that's great 96 00:03:49,910 --> 00:03:49,120 yeah no no no i don't feel i don't feel 97 00:03:52,070 --> 00:03:49,920 boundaries 98 00:03:53,670 --> 00:03:52,080 uh you know i always stay respectful but 99 00:03:56,710 --> 00:03:53,680 i i do feel 100 00:03:58,630 --> 00:03:56,720 um you know if you if you are really if 101 00:04:00,309 --> 00:03:58,640 you did your homework you get to ask the 102 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:00,319 real questions and 103 00:04:07,350 --> 00:04:03,920 um yeah you know a man like lou elizondo 104 00:04:08,630 --> 00:04:07,360 uh you know he's very open but he's also 105 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:08,640 very clear you know 106 00:04:12,710 --> 00:04:10,720 i cannot answer this but i can't tell 107 00:04:15,350 --> 00:04:12,720 this but you know it's 108 00:04:16,469 --> 00:04:15,360 it's your job vincent to ask the 109 00:04:18,069 --> 00:04:16,479 question and you know 110 00:04:19,509 --> 00:04:18,079 if you're lucky you know sometimes you 111 00:04:22,230 --> 00:04:19,519 you'll get a uh uh 112 00:04:22,550 --> 00:04:22,240 some new information and you know that 113 00:04:24,310 --> 00:04:22,560 that 114 00:04:25,749 --> 00:04:24,320 those are the the moments you know you 115 00:04:26,469 --> 00:04:25,759 you have this little jump in your head 116 00:04:28,710 --> 00:04:26,479 you're like 117 00:04:30,870 --> 00:04:28,720 yes yeah about well that's the thing you 118 00:04:32,469 --> 00:04:30,880 know my interview with lou has been 119 00:04:34,710 --> 00:04:32,479 knocked back one week so that's just 120 00:04:36,629 --> 00:04:34,720 given me a little bit extra time to 121 00:04:39,030 --> 00:04:36,639 plan a little bit more and and believe 122 00:04:40,550 --> 00:04:39,040 me my i'm planning hard i'm 123 00:04:42,390 --> 00:04:40,560 trying to come out with a whole new 124 00:04:43,510 --> 00:04:42,400 bunch of questions that i've not really 125 00:04:45,430 --> 00:04:43,520 seen 126 00:04:47,430 --> 00:04:45,440 put at him before i'm going to come in 127 00:04:48,710 --> 00:04:47,440 from a scientific angle i'm going to 128 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:48,720 just start picking apart 129 00:04:55,270 --> 00:04:52,720 other things um yeah i'm excited 130 00:04:55,749 --> 00:04:55,280 yeah i'm excited too to be honest that's 131 00:04:59,189 --> 00:04:55,759 one 132 00:05:00,469 --> 00:04:59,199 about because i've had so much time to 133 00:05:03,430 --> 00:05:00,479 prepare for it 134 00:05:05,110 --> 00:05:03,440 right um it's all down to the answers 135 00:05:08,310 --> 00:05:05,120 that he gives us now 136 00:05:11,350 --> 00:05:08,320 come on lou come on lou yeah yeah 137 00:05:13,749 --> 00:05:11,360 well you know lou is a very humble and a 138 00:05:16,870 --> 00:05:13,759 very nice man and you know 139 00:05:17,510 --> 00:05:16,880 he will give you whatever he can give so 140 00:05:19,990 --> 00:05:17,520 yeah 141 00:05:21,029 --> 00:05:20,000 man you go for it no well i have to say 142 00:05:23,830 --> 00:05:21,039 his wife as well 143 00:05:25,270 --> 00:05:23,840 such an amazing lovely lady oh big so to 144 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:25,280 jennifer i loved it i 145 00:05:28,790 --> 00:05:26,880 loved it she's just incredible she's 146 00:05:31,430 --> 00:05:28,800 just super nice and respectful 147 00:05:32,710 --> 00:05:31,440 and yeah we've been communicating back 148 00:05:34,629 --> 00:05:32,720 and forth quite a bit and 149 00:05:36,070 --> 00:05:34,639 yeah i just can't sing our praises 150 00:05:38,790 --> 00:05:36,080 enough man so 151 00:05:39,590 --> 00:05:38,800 both of them very very nice people yeah 152 00:05:42,790 --> 00:05:39,600 they're lovely 153 00:05:45,830 --> 00:05:42,800 what 154 00:05:47,590 --> 00:05:45,840 wife 155 00:05:49,670 --> 00:05:47,600 they're just human beings they're 156 00:05:52,150 --> 00:05:49,680 regular human beings the only thing is 157 00:05:54,150 --> 00:05:52,160 lou happens to be a former special agent 158 00:05:57,830 --> 00:05:54,160 who investigated 159 00:05:59,830 --> 00:05:57,840 in secrecy ufos but totally normal 160 00:06:01,670 --> 00:05:59,840 yeah that's it man i need to try and 161 00:06:04,790 --> 00:06:01,680 remember that sometimes i think i 162 00:06:06,870 --> 00:06:04,800 like the incredibles exactly i hold him 163 00:06:08,309 --> 00:06:06,880 to such high regard 164 00:06:09,749 --> 00:06:08,319 every now and again i have to just reel 165 00:06:11,749 --> 00:06:09,759 myself back and just go look he's just 166 00:06:13,029 --> 00:06:11,759 another guy like me you and everyone 167 00:06:14,950 --> 00:06:13,039 else 168 00:06:16,950 --> 00:06:14,960 it just so happens to be the guy that 169 00:06:18,790 --> 00:06:16,960 everyone wants to talk to at the moment 170 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:18,800 yeah that's true that's true i'm lucky 171 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:20,560 to have that chance and hey it's half 172 00:06:23,830 --> 00:06:22,000 thanks to you my friend 173 00:06:25,660 --> 00:06:23,840 you made this happen for me and put me 174 00:06:28,150 --> 00:06:25,670 on 175 00:06:31,350 --> 00:06:28,160 [Laughter] 176 00:06:33,990 --> 00:06:31,360 okeydokes so 177 00:06:35,510 --> 00:06:34,000 where should we start man where we 178 00:06:38,629 --> 00:06:35,520 should always start 179 00:06:41,830 --> 00:06:38,639 where shall we start you know um i i 180 00:06:42,790 --> 00:06:41,840 uh the the what the thing that blew my 181 00:06:45,990 --> 00:06:42,800 mind the most 182 00:06:48,309 --> 00:06:46,000 the last two weeks were all these former 183 00:06:50,150 --> 00:06:48,319 presidents who started singing 184 00:06:51,510 --> 00:06:50,160 yes ma'am and they've all seen they all 185 00:06:53,670 --> 00:06:51,520 seem to be sort of doing it 186 00:06:55,029 --> 00:06:53,680 around the same time it's like all of a 187 00:06:56,469 --> 00:06:55,039 sudden they're all coming out and 188 00:06:58,710 --> 00:06:56,479 talking about it which is great 189 00:06:59,510 --> 00:06:58,720 obviously i mean i loved it i loved it i 190 00:07:01,510 --> 00:06:59,520 loved it 191 00:07:03,110 --> 00:07:01,520 yeah what did you think you know when 192 00:07:06,070 --> 00:07:03,120 obama 193 00:07:07,749 --> 00:07:06,080 started talking to the well what's the 194 00:07:08,230 --> 00:07:07,759 the dude from the band the roots right 195 00:07:10,150 --> 00:07:08,240 shame 196 00:07:11,830 --> 00:07:10,160 he was talking to the guy on james 197 00:07:13,589 --> 00:07:11,840 corden's show the guy in the band i 198 00:07:15,189 --> 00:07:13,599 forget his name man that's terrible 199 00:07:16,710 --> 00:07:15,199 yeah the band is the roots the roots i 200 00:07:18,870 --> 00:07:16,720 is it the roots 201 00:07:19,749 --> 00:07:18,880 yeah yeah yeah i love the roots man yeah 202 00:07:22,870 --> 00:07:19,759 they're like 203 00:07:24,230 --> 00:07:22,880 great [\h__\h] i like that you can swear 204 00:07:27,909 --> 00:07:24,240 on this channel man 205 00:07:27,919 --> 00:07:31,990 just checking in the chat the 206 00:07:36,230 --> 00:07:33,510 yeah it was good that he chimed in with 207 00:07:38,309 --> 00:07:36,240 that that question for obama and obama 208 00:07:39,430 --> 00:07:38,319 he kind of just laid it out quite 209 00:07:41,189 --> 00:07:39,440 casually as well and 210 00:07:43,029 --> 00:07:41,199 you know it wasn't like you know when 211 00:07:44,550 --> 00:07:43,039 you saw obama a few years ago while he 212 00:07:45,990 --> 00:07:44,560 was still president talking on 213 00:07:48,390 --> 00:07:46,000 i think it was jimmy kimmel or one of 214 00:07:50,150 --> 00:07:48,400 them it was a lot of a different vibe 215 00:07:53,749 --> 00:07:50,160 but this time it was a lot more 216 00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:53,759 flowing and i think i think he felt 217 00:07:58,309 --> 00:07:56,960 uh powered by the fact you know all this 218 00:08:01,029 --> 00:07:58,319 is coming out now right 219 00:08:01,589 --> 00:08:01,039 so it's like look uh if if my military 220 00:08:09,270 --> 00:08:01,599 is 221 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:09,280 i will too yeah so absolutely and then 222 00:08:16,150 --> 00:08:12,960 um clinton came out um 223 00:08:20,150 --> 00:08:18,309 no not trump right no no just clinton 224 00:08:21,589 --> 00:08:20,160 yeah yeah clinton came out i 225 00:08:22,950 --> 00:08:21,599 posted it i can't remember what show it 226 00:08:24,550 --> 00:08:22,960 was i'm not familiar with all these 227 00:08:26,469 --> 00:08:24,560 different chat shows in the states that 228 00:08:27,029 --> 00:08:26,479 much but uh yeah i didn't know they want 229 00:08:28,469 --> 00:08:27,039 to 230 00:08:30,869 --> 00:08:28,479 it was good it was good you know they're 231 00:08:32,709 --> 00:08:30,879 talking about it and they're not 232 00:08:34,709 --> 00:08:32,719 you know the stigma's dropped all that 233 00:08:35,589 --> 00:08:34,719 taboo has dropped and people are talking 234 00:08:38,870 --> 00:08:35,599 about it and 235 00:08:42,550 --> 00:08:38,880 that is just so important look finn 236 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:42,560 if the damn past presidents 237 00:08:50,550 --> 00:08:49,509 you know saying this is a real thing 238 00:08:52,550 --> 00:08:50,560 they were talking 239 00:08:53,590 --> 00:08:52,560 i did you know i my first question to 240 00:08:56,710 --> 00:08:53,600 harry reid right 241 00:08:59,990 --> 00:08:56,720 senator harry reid i saw that thing on 242 00:09:02,389 --> 00:09:00,000 uh james gordon and i 243 00:09:03,670 --> 00:09:02,399 i i think it was just days away from 244 00:09:06,150 --> 00:09:03,680 from uh interviewing 245 00:09:07,750 --> 00:09:06,160 the senator i thought that's my i have 246 00:09:09,829 --> 00:09:07,760 to add that's the first thing i'm going 247 00:09:12,949 --> 00:09:09,839 to ask because you know he was working 248 00:09:16,710 --> 00:09:12,959 with obama at the time it was i was like 249 00:09:19,030 --> 00:09:16,720 oh god whatever is up there 250 00:09:20,550 --> 00:09:19,040 yeah came together no that's perfect i 251 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:20,560 remember i watched it and then yeah it 252 00:09:25,030 --> 00:09:22,560 was great it was a great opener 253 00:09:27,030 --> 00:09:25,040 just lay the level and yeah i was 254 00:09:30,310 --> 00:09:27,040 impressed by that it was really good 255 00:09:33,590 --> 00:09:30,320 yeah and and and the senator was like 256 00:09:35,269 --> 00:09:33,600 yeah yeah yeah we talked about that like 257 00:09:37,030 --> 00:09:35,279 like a water cooler conversation or 258 00:09:39,829 --> 00:09:37,040 something exactly just just casual 259 00:09:41,430 --> 00:09:39,839 casual chat as you do when you're at 260 00:09:43,910 --> 00:09:41,440 that higher level 261 00:09:45,350 --> 00:09:43,920 yeah we're in the white house hey harry 262 00:09:47,190 --> 00:09:45,360 hey baroque 263 00:09:50,150 --> 00:09:47,200 man just to be a fly on the wall for 264 00:09:52,550 --> 00:09:50,160 some of those conversations 265 00:09:54,070 --> 00:09:52,560 cheer about that damn gimbal yesterday 266 00:09:56,470 --> 00:09:54,080 yeah 267 00:09:58,389 --> 00:09:56,480 insane but the thing is as well is that 268 00:10:01,110 --> 00:09:58,399 they're talking about it you know across 269 00:10:03,509 --> 00:10:01,120 all the mainstream media i guess the 270 00:10:05,670 --> 00:10:03,519 only negative thing i have to say is 271 00:10:07,350 --> 00:10:05,680 is watching all the people complain that 272 00:10:09,350 --> 00:10:07,360 the mainstream media are talking about 273 00:10:10,790 --> 00:10:09,360 it like oh there's fake news they're 274 00:10:11,190 --> 00:10:10,800 lying and that it's like hang on a 275 00:10:12,949 --> 00:10:11,200 minute 276 00:10:14,630 --> 00:10:12,959 we've been crying out for years for the 277 00:10:17,190 --> 00:10:14,640 mainstream to cover it 278 00:10:17,990 --> 00:10:17,200 take it seriously and now that they are 279 00:10:20,550 --> 00:10:18,000 people are 280 00:10:22,310 --> 00:10:20,560 complaining even more it's like you 281 00:10:24,790 --> 00:10:22,320 can't win 282 00:10:25,350 --> 00:10:24,800 no it's it's it's it's the weirdest 283 00:10:28,710 --> 00:10:25,360 thing 284 00:10:30,550 --> 00:10:28,720 yeah but i i do think it's still a human 285 00:10:31,990 --> 00:10:30,560 reflex you know people are have a really 286 00:10:36,069 --> 00:10:32,000 hard time coping with this 287 00:10:38,310 --> 00:10:36,079 new yeah reality and um 288 00:10:39,509 --> 00:10:38,320 that there there is a problem it's 289 00:10:41,990 --> 00:10:39,519 because we still 290 00:10:42,550 --> 00:10:42,000 do not know what the hell this is you 291 00:10:45,509 --> 00:10:42,560 know 292 00:10:46,949 --> 00:10:45,519 it doesn't help i guess so but then a 293 00:10:48,389 --> 00:10:46,959 lot of people will still say well of 294 00:10:49,910 --> 00:10:48,399 course they know what it is they're just 295 00:10:52,949 --> 00:10:49,920 not telling us 296 00:10:54,790 --> 00:10:52,959 and it's like oh yeah we don't know 297 00:10:56,150 --> 00:10:54,800 they've always this is the thing there's 298 00:10:58,630 --> 00:10:56,160 a lot of people out there that think 299 00:11:00,790 --> 00:10:58,640 they have the answers or that they know 300 00:11:02,949 --> 00:11:00,800 who has the answers and in fact we we 301 00:11:04,069 --> 00:11:02,959 don't and and this is where my research 302 00:11:07,030 --> 00:11:04,079 goes is that we 303 00:11:07,910 --> 00:11:07,040 hit brick walls and we can't get that 304 00:11:10,470 --> 00:11:07,920 final 305 00:11:11,990 --> 00:11:10,480 yes it's conclusive this is what it is 306 00:11:13,350 --> 00:11:12,000 or this is who knows and things like 307 00:11:17,190 --> 00:11:13,360 that what is that 308 00:11:19,430 --> 00:11:17,200 oh there's wine sorry that's a nice oh 309 00:11:20,949 --> 00:11:19,440 nah please go ahead man i just took off 310 00:11:22,550 --> 00:11:20,959 the cork like a pirate 311 00:11:25,590 --> 00:11:22,560 yeah i was gonna say like a boss 312 00:11:27,829 --> 00:11:25,600 [Laughter] 313 00:11:29,509 --> 00:11:27,839 i always like like smack the cork but 314 00:11:31,590 --> 00:11:29,519 then i can't open it again and i have to 315 00:11:32,710 --> 00:11:31,600 use my teeth 316 00:11:34,790 --> 00:11:32,720 and just carrying on from where we're 317 00:11:36,310 --> 00:11:34,800 talking about the media is like a lot of 318 00:11:38,949 --> 00:11:36,320 people say it's fake news in that it's 319 00:11:40,949 --> 00:11:38,959 like i don't care what network it's on 320 00:11:43,030 --> 00:11:40,959 don't pay attention to the newscaster 321 00:11:46,230 --> 00:11:43,040 pay attention to who they're talking to 322 00:11:47,269 --> 00:11:46,240 louis ondo sean cahill and you know 323 00:11:48,790 --> 00:11:47,279 people like that 324 00:11:50,870 --> 00:11:48,800 it doesn't matter what network they're 325 00:11:51,190 --> 00:11:50,880 on it's not fake news if we're hearing 326 00:11:53,750 --> 00:11:51,200 it 327 00:11:55,030 --> 00:11:53,760 straight from people that that we have 328 00:11:57,910 --> 00:11:55,040 time for that we like 329 00:11:58,790 --> 00:11:57,920 we want to hear from yeah so this is my 330 00:12:00,550 --> 00:11:58,800 this this is my 331 00:12:01,829 --> 00:12:00,560 criticism to the dutch media actually 332 00:12:04,069 --> 00:12:01,839 you know because 333 00:12:06,069 --> 00:12:04,079 they they have been writing about this a 334 00:12:08,790 --> 00:12:06,079 lot now especially this week 335 00:12:11,509 --> 00:12:08,800 like this yeah the three biggest dutch 336 00:12:14,230 --> 00:12:11,519 newspapers started to cover it but they 337 00:12:15,590 --> 00:12:14,240 just take over literally the new york 338 00:12:19,030 --> 00:12:15,600 times 339 00:12:21,990 --> 00:12:19,040 even the the first uh fault 340 00:12:22,470 --> 00:12:22,000 faultive uh title then you know they 341 00:12:25,509 --> 00:12:22,480 they 342 00:12:26,949 --> 00:12:25,519 changed it you know it uh we can't rule 343 00:12:30,389 --> 00:12:26,959 out its aliens you know 344 00:12:32,069 --> 00:12:30,399 yeah dutch media is covering just 345 00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:32,079 you know whatever they see and whatever 346 00:12:35,350 --> 00:12:33,680 they want to see 347 00:12:37,829 --> 00:12:35,360 listen you just you just said it's three 348 00:12:39,350 --> 00:12:37,839 dutch media outlets now because i'm sure 349 00:12:40,230 --> 00:12:39,360 only a month or two ago you were talking 350 00:12:42,790 --> 00:12:40,240 about one 351 00:12:44,470 --> 00:12:42,800 the big one was covering it so yeah more 352 00:12:45,750 --> 00:12:44,480 it's expanded now there's more of them 353 00:12:48,790 --> 00:12:45,760 covered 354 00:12:51,350 --> 00:12:48,800 we have like three three big newspapers 355 00:12:53,269 --> 00:12:51,360 uh and now they all cover but you know 356 00:12:53,590 --> 00:12:53,279 they cover it in a weird way you know 357 00:12:57,990 --> 00:12:53,600 they 358 00:12:59,269 --> 00:12:58,000 me you know like um 359 00:13:01,190 --> 00:12:59,279 they don't talk to people you know 360 00:13:04,230 --> 00:13:01,200 they're not like you or me you know 361 00:13:07,509 --> 00:13:04,240 they don't just approach someone who's 362 00:13:10,389 --> 00:13:07,519 incredibly important like lou elizondo 363 00:13:11,350 --> 00:13:10,399 or or a politician or or one of the 364 00:13:13,750 --> 00:13:11,360 military men 365 00:13:15,509 --> 00:13:13,760 no yeah they they just copy paste the 366 00:13:17,269 --> 00:13:15,519 damn american media 367 00:13:19,030 --> 00:13:17,279 you know what the hell do something 368 00:13:20,629 --> 00:13:19,040 realism 369 00:13:22,710 --> 00:13:20,639 in this country all the tabloids and 370 00:13:24,870 --> 00:13:22,720 that it's exactly the same 371 00:13:27,190 --> 00:13:24,880 you know we're crying out for them to 372 00:13:27,430 --> 00:13:27,200 just contact someone who who knows about 373 00:13:35,590 --> 00:13:27,440 it 374 00:13:36,470 --> 00:13:35,600 the bullet points and basic information 375 00:13:40,230 --> 00:13:36,480 we need more 376 00:13:44,150 --> 00:13:40,240 any i came to a weird conclusion oh okay 377 00:13:46,949 --> 00:13:44,160 there's a rare exception 378 00:13:48,069 --> 00:13:46,959 uh on this topic where tabloids are 379 00:13:51,509 --> 00:13:48,079 actually 380 00:13:55,110 --> 00:13:51,519 more on point than 381 00:13:57,030 --> 00:13:55,120 you know real uh respected mainstream 382 00:13:59,990 --> 00:13:57,040 media newspapers 383 00:14:01,030 --> 00:14:00,000 tabloids are more on point on this 384 00:14:02,389 --> 00:14:01,040 subject 385 00:14:05,269 --> 00:14:02,399 they've definitely jumped on it quicker 386 00:14:08,230 --> 00:14:05,279 than the main domain respected 387 00:14:08,790 --> 00:14:08,240 and they're covering it quite well you 388 00:14:10,310 --> 00:14:08,800 know 389 00:14:11,990 --> 00:14:10,320 they are i mean as much as they're 390 00:14:13,189 --> 00:14:12,000 saying it's just copied and pasted and 391 00:14:15,269 --> 00:14:13,199 that they're covering it 392 00:14:16,870 --> 00:14:15,279 it's taking it's you know it's been put 393 00:14:18,310 --> 00:14:16,880 out there to a lot of people that 394 00:14:20,230 --> 00:14:18,320 it wouldn't be on their radar if they 395 00:14:21,590 --> 00:14:20,240 weren't so i guess we have to throw a 396 00:14:23,829 --> 00:14:21,600 little bit of credit their way 397 00:14:25,030 --> 00:14:23,839 you know and what's also so weird to me 398 00:14:29,670 --> 00:14:25,040 is like like 399 00:14:34,949 --> 00:14:33,030 it's black all the stuff in that not all 400 00:14:35,670 --> 00:14:34,959 of it not all of it but there's a lot of 401 00:14:38,550 --> 00:14:35,680 things that 402 00:14:39,590 --> 00:14:38,560 that were you know uh in this fictional 403 00:14:42,790 --> 00:14:39,600 uh story about 404 00:14:44,790 --> 00:14:42,800 uh you know alien life but some elements 405 00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:44,800 some facets are actually dead on you 406 00:14:47,269 --> 00:14:46,320 know like the tabloids are actually 407 00:14:50,389 --> 00:14:47,279 covering it quite 408 00:14:53,350 --> 00:14:50,399 well absolutely and um 409 00:14:54,949 --> 00:14:53,360 you know uh i well you know i might 410 00:14:57,110 --> 00:14:54,959 drift off a little bit but 411 00:14:58,230 --> 00:14:57,120 what do you think yeah no no i totally 412 00:14:59,990 --> 00:14:58,240 agree and i think we've seen it 413 00:15:01,269 --> 00:15:00,000 especially in movies through hollywood 414 00:15:03,110 --> 00:15:01,279 over the 415 00:15:04,949 --> 00:15:03,120 for decades you know we see little 416 00:15:08,470 --> 00:15:04,959 pieces of movies 417 00:15:11,670 --> 00:15:08,480 that that make sense and they compare to 418 00:15:12,870 --> 00:15:11,680 what we've heard in real ufo history ufo 419 00:15:14,949 --> 00:15:12,880 cases 420 00:15:16,870 --> 00:15:14,959 you know done by researchers you hear 421 00:15:18,710 --> 00:15:16,880 the stories about these directors such 422 00:15:21,189 --> 00:15:18,720 as spielberg talking with 423 00:15:22,710 --> 00:15:21,199 government and stuff you know right so 424 00:15:23,910 --> 00:15:22,720 yeah there's got to be little pieces of 425 00:15:26,790 --> 00:15:23,920 truth in there 426 00:15:29,030 --> 00:15:26,800 somewhere yeah yeah yeah definitely 427 00:15:33,030 --> 00:15:29,040 definitely 428 00:15:36,230 --> 00:15:33,040 so i can't wait for this 429 00:15:39,509 --> 00:15:36,240 you know report to come out but uh 430 00:15:41,749 --> 00:15:39,519 you know i hear so many different 431 00:15:43,990 --> 00:15:41,759 angles and stories and people have you 432 00:15:45,269 --> 00:15:44,000 know that they're very skeptical 433 00:15:47,350 --> 00:15:45,279 you know they prepare for a 434 00:15:48,550 --> 00:15:47,360 disappointment some people are actually 435 00:15:52,069 --> 00:15:48,560 very 436 00:15:54,310 --> 00:15:52,079 positive you know yeah yeah 437 00:15:55,269 --> 00:15:54,320 but with the but with the in inspector 438 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:55,279 general uh 439 00:15:58,550 --> 00:15:56,399 involved you know this might be 440 00:15:59,829 --> 00:15:58,560 interesting it will be yeah i mean i 441 00:16:01,829 --> 00:15:59,839 think the report will come out on the 442 00:16:03,110 --> 00:16:01,839 25th with very little information for 443 00:16:04,629 --> 00:16:03,120 the public 444 00:16:07,590 --> 00:16:04,639 the evaluation being done by the 445 00:16:10,310 --> 00:16:07,600 inspector general may lead to 446 00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:10,320 them pushing the task force into a more 447 00:16:12,790 --> 00:16:11,279 prominent position 448 00:16:15,189 --> 00:16:12,800 going forward you know something a bit 449 00:16:16,949 --> 00:16:15,199 more permanent maybe give them more 450 00:16:18,550 --> 00:16:16,959 members more funding 451 00:16:20,230 --> 00:16:18,560 just give them the opportunity to stop 452 00:16:21,509 --> 00:16:20,240 hitting these robot roadblocks and 453 00:16:22,790 --> 00:16:21,519 getting these pushbacks that we we've 454 00:16:25,269 --> 00:16:22,800 heard they've been getting 455 00:16:27,269 --> 00:16:25,279 you know struggling to get the 456 00:16:29,110 --> 00:16:27,279 information from some of these agencies 457 00:16:31,749 --> 00:16:29,120 um it really needs to be a longer 458 00:16:35,749 --> 00:16:31,759 process 180 days is not long enough 459 00:16:36,230 --> 00:16:35,759 no no no lou said like 180 days you know 460 00:16:37,749 --> 00:16:36,240 it's even 461 00:16:40,310 --> 00:16:37,759 it's not even long enough to build a new 462 00:16:42,389 --> 00:16:40,320 kitchen maybe exactly man it's it's 463 00:16:44,310 --> 00:16:42,399 it's too much to ask of them it really 464 00:16:46,470 --> 00:16:44,320 is yeah 465 00:16:48,470 --> 00:16:46,480 but then we can't forget that there are 466 00:16:50,389 --> 00:16:48,480 still a lot of people out there 467 00:16:52,150 --> 00:16:50,399 not connected to the government anymore 468 00:16:54,150 --> 00:16:52,160 necessarily who 469 00:16:55,670 --> 00:16:54,160 we've seen leaks coming from them 470 00:16:57,590 --> 00:16:55,680 there's got to be more to come 471 00:16:59,670 --> 00:16:57,600 there really has we've heard it teased 472 00:17:03,030 --> 00:16:59,680 jeremy's teased it a lot more 473 00:17:03,829 --> 00:17:03,040 so you know yeah he does a good job 474 00:17:06,069 --> 00:17:03,839 teasing 475 00:17:07,189 --> 00:17:06,079 yeah very good very good and i know a 476 00:17:08,870 --> 00:17:07,199 lot of people hate that and they 477 00:17:09,750 --> 00:17:08,880 complain but if you can just see past 478 00:17:13,110 --> 00:17:09,760 that and just 479 00:17:15,909 --> 00:17:13,120 no i i i i get upset when people 480 00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:15,919 you know criticize jeremy because this 481 00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:16,480 guy is 482 00:17:19,750 --> 00:17:18,480 goddamn pioneer you know if you didn't 483 00:17:23,429 --> 00:17:19,760 have jeremy 484 00:17:25,990 --> 00:17:23,439 you know these military men feel uh 485 00:17:26,549 --> 00:17:26,000 safe enough to to uh release their 486 00:17:29,590 --> 00:17:26,559 footage 487 00:17:33,270 --> 00:17:29,600 through jeremy you know but you know 488 00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:33,280 if if you and look 489 00:17:36,710 --> 00:17:36,160 jeremy is a human being who who needs to 490 00:17:39,830 --> 00:17:36,720 live 491 00:17:42,789 --> 00:17:39,840 you know he needs to pay bills so why 492 00:17:43,909 --> 00:17:42,799 so why is he being like uh cast tied for 493 00:17:47,029 --> 00:17:43,919 you know making uh 494 00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:47,039 making a living i i i make a living 495 00:17:50,150 --> 00:17:48,240 because of this you know 496 00:17:51,350 --> 00:17:50,160 yeah i write about it i get paid for 497 00:17:52,950 --> 00:17:51,360 that you know 498 00:17:54,470 --> 00:17:52,960 if i wouldn't get paid for it i wouldn't 499 00:17:56,310 --> 00:17:54,480 be able to do this 500 00:17:58,789 --> 00:17:56,320 no i understand of course i mean that's 501 00:18:00,310 --> 00:17:58,799 the thing as soon as money gets involved 502 00:18:02,549 --> 00:18:00,320 people take it so far 503 00:18:03,909 --> 00:18:02,559 and just think that that it revolves 504 00:18:04,789 --> 00:18:03,919 around that money where of course it 505 00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:04,799 doesn't man 506 00:18:07,830 --> 00:18:06,240 and there's a lot there's not a lot of 507 00:18:09,430 --> 00:18:07,840 money in it 508 00:18:10,870 --> 00:18:09,440 you know people just get get enough to 509 00:18:12,549 --> 00:18:10,880 survive and get by 510 00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:12,559 you're certainly not driving around in 511 00:18:16,950 --> 00:18:14,480 the latest cars and stuff like that 512 00:18:18,470 --> 00:18:16,960 and what people don't realize is we are 513 00:18:20,710 --> 00:18:18,480 taking a damn risk 514 00:18:21,990 --> 00:18:20,720 you know as look i'm a bonafide 515 00:18:24,710 --> 00:18:22,000 journalist filmmaker 516 00:18:25,110 --> 00:18:24,720 so is jeremy yeah so is james fox 517 00:18:27,750 --> 00:18:25,120 exactly 518 00:18:28,390 --> 00:18:27,760 so is jess shaw so is christina gomez 519 00:18:32,390 --> 00:18:28,400 you know 520 00:18:35,190 --> 00:18:32,400 and the list goes on i have heard 521 00:18:36,470 --> 00:18:35,200 uh people in holland telling me dude you 522 00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:36,480 are committing career 523 00:18:42,950 --> 00:18:39,840 suicide stop covering that [\h__\h] 524 00:18:44,470 --> 00:18:42,960 stop covering paranormal stuff you know 525 00:18:46,789 --> 00:18:44,480 it's it's a real risk 526 00:18:48,310 --> 00:18:46,799 if you cover this so you're actually 527 00:18:50,789 --> 00:18:48,320 lucky to make a little uh 528 00:18:51,909 --> 00:18:50,799 money uh you know as a journalist or or 529 00:18:54,830 --> 00:18:51,919 as a filmmaker 530 00:18:56,230 --> 00:18:54,840 you know it's a it it you know we are 531 00:18:58,789 --> 00:18:56,240 not we are 532 00:19:00,150 --> 00:18:58,799 not doing this because we are making 533 00:19:02,710 --> 00:19:00,160 millions and millions of 534 00:19:03,669 --> 00:19:02,720 euros or dollars no we are not making a 535 00:19:07,270 --> 00:19:03,679 lot of money 536 00:19:09,830 --> 00:19:07,280 we struggle but we keep on going 537 00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:09,840 coverage exactly man it's a passion it's 538 00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:11,120 a dedication 539 00:19:16,549 --> 00:19:14,080 yeah i don't think sometimes certain 540 00:19:20,230 --> 00:19:16,559 people realize that um 541 00:19:23,110 --> 00:19:20,240 i mean i've neglected family and friends 542 00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:23,120 doing this but i think it'll be worth it 543 00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:24,880 i i think you know 544 00:19:29,110 --> 00:19:26,320 we're just we're in we're in it for the 545 00:19:32,230 --> 00:19:29,120 long haul we're in it in a fight almost 546 00:19:34,390 --> 00:19:32,240 look yeah we are fighting look vinnie um 547 00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:34,400 you know but what we whatever we're 548 00:19:36,710 --> 00:19:35,760 doing we're doing something right 549 00:19:39,350 --> 00:19:36,720 because you know 550 00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:39,360 this train is picking up speed it's not 551 00:19:42,710 --> 00:19:40,880 stopping anymore 552 00:19:44,549 --> 00:19:42,720 absolutely covering they're covering you 553 00:19:46,950 --> 00:19:44,559 know they're still hesitant you know 554 00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:46,960 they they don't dare to really interview 555 00:19:49,990 --> 00:19:47,840 the people they 556 00:19:50,950 --> 00:19:50,000 but in holland you know i'm just talking 557 00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:50,960 about holland but 558 00:19:54,789 --> 00:19:53,200 you know we there there's something you 559 00:19:58,230 --> 00:19:54,799 know this this is moving 560 00:20:00,390 --> 00:19:58,240 and quickly it's fast exactly man and we 561 00:20:02,390 --> 00:20:00,400 and that's another reason i cannot stop 562 00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:02,400 you know i feel guilty if i take a few 563 00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:04,240 hours off without checking 564 00:20:07,430 --> 00:20:06,000 what's happening just you know i don't 565 00:20:09,510 --> 00:20:07,440 want to miss anything 566 00:20:11,750 --> 00:20:09,520 i was talking i was talking to christina 567 00:20:13,909 --> 00:20:11,760 about this yesterday you know i almost 568 00:20:15,590 --> 00:20:13,919 get stressed falling asleep because i 569 00:20:17,909 --> 00:20:15,600 know i'm going to miss so much 570 00:20:20,070 --> 00:20:17,919 exactly man it's it's it's like an 571 00:20:21,669 --> 00:20:20,080 addiction man 572 00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:21,679 yeah when i wake up and i go onto 573 00:20:26,149 --> 00:20:23,760 twitter i'm like [\h__\h] 574 00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:26,159 you i'm just all of it there's always 575 00:20:28,750 --> 00:20:28,080 something going on yeah oh good it's not 576 00:20:31,430 --> 00:20:28,760 just me then 577 00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:31,440 [Laughter] 578 00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:34,400 my fellow countryman wilfred is asking a 579 00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:36,240 question when does the new uap 580 00:20:43,430 --> 00:20:39,280 edition of new review come out uh 581 00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:43,440 well lil fred i think i have an answer 582 00:20:50,630 --> 00:20:47,200 for you i think it is going to be 583 00:20:53,110 --> 00:20:50,640 first week of july but but but i'll uh 584 00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:53,120 you know i'll i'll announce is that 585 00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:54,080 something you've written have you 586 00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:56,000 written for these guys 587 00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:58,159 yeah yeah yeah this is the magazine i'm 588 00:21:02,710 --> 00:21:00,240 actually writing for and uh 589 00:21:03,270 --> 00:21:02,720 it is a new review weekly magazine it's 590 00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:03,280 a 591 00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:10,480 two uh full uh 592 00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:13,120 editions consecutive about the uap 593 00:21:16,630 --> 00:21:14,000 subject 594 00:21:18,549 --> 00:21:16,640 and after those um were released the 595 00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:18,559 biggest newspaper started to cover 596 00:21:21,830 --> 00:21:21,039 you know because of because of that they 597 00:21:23,430 --> 00:21:21,840 saw it and then 598 00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:23,440 i don't know if it was because of me but 599 00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:25,600 it was like 600 00:21:31,669 --> 00:21:29,360 come on coincidence yeah 601 00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:31,679 i don't know man i don't know that's 602 00:21:36,310 --> 00:21:33,039 awesome man 603 00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:36,320 yeah yeah so hey listen um i'm gonna 604 00:21:39,270 --> 00:21:37,760 jump straight into this conversation 605 00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:39,280 i've been having a bit recently 606 00:21:42,549 --> 00:21:41,280 and you've probably heard of it is the 607 00:21:46,149 --> 00:21:42,559 elusive 608 00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:46,159 triangle photo yeah 609 00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:48,400 yeah what i'm talking about i think so 610 00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:49,200 yeah 611 00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:50,960 so there's this photograph that's been 612 00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:52,720 teased for so long 613 00:21:56,230 --> 00:21:55,360 of this triangle that's 50 feet away 614 00:21:59,909 --> 00:21:56,240 from a cockpit 615 00:22:04,070 --> 00:21:59,919 taken by the systems on board the f-18 616 00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:04,080 pulled it up jamie uh yeah yeah 617 00:22:07,510 --> 00:22:05,600 but then everyone's talking about it 618 00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:07,520 might get released it might not and i 619 00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:09,120 keep finding little bits of information 620 00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:10,480 out about it that it is highly 621 00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:11,520 classified 622 00:22:16,230 --> 00:22:14,480 but um it really is the high fidelity hd 623 00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:16,240 photograph that everybody's crying out 624 00:22:19,270 --> 00:22:17,120 for 625 00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:19,280 is this the the the thing um tim 626 00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:20,240 mcmillan is 627 00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:23,520 talking about yes now i know 628 00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:26,559 i mean i'm still thinking that it's it's 629 00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:28,400 i think it's gonna come out i'm not even 630 00:22:33,669 --> 00:22:30,799 gonna i think it'll come out from 631 00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:33,679 channels outside of the intelligence 632 00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:34,640 community 633 00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:36,960 well my brother i think uh me and you 634 00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:37,840 should both 635 00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:40,080 both invite uh mr macmillan for a 636 00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:41,280 podcast 637 00:22:43,990 --> 00:22:42,720 that would be incredible i've just seen 638 00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:44,000 in the comments people are saying we 639 00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:44,480 should do 640 00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:47,760 an interview together as like co-hosting 641 00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:51,120 oh i'm all i'm i'm in man yes yes 642 00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:53,200 let's do it man let's get to mcmillan 643 00:22:55,909 --> 00:22:54,880 i'd love to speak to that guy man he's 644 00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:55,919 just that's 645 00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:57,919 he's just done a couple of um interviews 646 00:23:01,430 --> 00:22:59,679 with that ufo podcast 647 00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:01,440 with andy you know the guy from scotland 648 00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:03,760 i love that podcast that's my favorite 649 00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:06,720 um and i'm a patreon supporter and i got 650 00:23:08,950 --> 00:23:07,360 to hear 651 00:23:11,909 --> 00:23:08,960 the second part of the tim mcmillan 652 00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:11,919 interview last night and oh boy 653 00:23:18,149 --> 00:23:15,120 it's great it's really good yeah i i saw 654 00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:18,159 a little snippet of it there 655 00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:20,000 i'm excited i really want to speak to 656 00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:22,880 tim man he's just he's the man 657 00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:25,360 i've talked to him before um i think a 658 00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:28,080 month ago or something 659 00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:30,960 yeah he's really easy going and he's 660 00:23:33,270 --> 00:23:32,559 actually pretty close to us man he's in 661 00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:33,280 germany 662 00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:36,320 yes indeed so time difference is not a 663 00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:43,669 vincent uh i have asked tim 664 00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:46,320 to go and visit him you know and and 665 00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:47,600 talk about stuff 666 00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:49,279 you know you're not that far you know 667 00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:51,600 you can take yeah you could take the 668 00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:53,840 the the train or the pond or the plane 669 00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:54,799 but uh it's 670 00:24:02,870 --> 00:23:58,960 you're you're close we could do a 671 00:24:05,669 --> 00:24:02,880 trip from amsterdam to [\h__\h] germany 672 00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:05,679 uh because tim is actually quite close 673 00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:06,799 to the dutch border 674 00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:09,840 really so yeah he is yeah hey bro it's 675 00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:11,919 like a 45 minute flight from me to 676 00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:13,039 amsterdam 677 00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:15,520 yeah easyjet your ass over here and 678 00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:16,400 we'll drive up 679 00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:21,430 i'm so down for that i've got my covered 680 00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:23,360 passport now i'm double vaxxed up 681 00:24:27,669 --> 00:24:25,840 i'm all ready to go man i'm gonna get my 682 00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:27,679 shots uh next week 683 00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:30,000 yeah first one or second one first one 684 00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:30,880 yeah 685 00:24:45,830 --> 00:24:43,200 in my arm 686 00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:45,840 so hey listen if they've put a tracker 687 00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:47,520 in me let them track me my life isn't 688 00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:49,120 that interesting man 689 00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:56,070 so yeah except for all right except for 690 00:25:00,070 --> 00:24:57,039 all those 691 00:25:01,430 --> 00:25:00,080 no i was you actually 692 00:25:03,269 --> 00:25:01,440 helped me out because i was about to 693 00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:03,279 make a really bad joke 694 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:08,799 that jokes yeah yeah even worse 695 00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:10,720 hey yeah so listen i'm down for this 696 00:25:14,789 --> 00:25:12,720 trip man i'm ready to go 697 00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:14,799 speak to tim it seems like you've got it 698 00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:16,720 in with him already 699 00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:18,559 yeah i did a podcast with him so let's 700 00:25:22,149 --> 00:25:20,880 go let's dude let's get it sorted man 701 00:25:25,590 --> 00:25:22,159 and we can do like 702 00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:25,600 road trip live interview oh 703 00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:28,640 man hey man we can man we can just stop 704 00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:30,240 and podcast and we can do 705 00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:32,799 all kinds of stuff we can make a stop at 706 00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:33,760 susta bear 707 00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:37,840 we can do oh yes yes ma'am 708 00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:40,960 definitely yeah yeah 709 00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:42,320 even if the whole tim thing doesn't 710 00:25:46,390 --> 00:25:44,080 happen i'm still coming out there to 711 00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:46,400 to do that stuff with you man because it 712 00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:47,440 would be great if 713 00:25:51,269 --> 00:25:49,200 uh somebody's watching this we need a 714 00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:51,279 sponsor 715 00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:57,919 and uh you know we'll cover all of your 716 00:26:03,029 --> 00:25:58,880 stuff 717 00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:03,039 by the way is great wine for 718 00:26:08,830 --> 00:26:06,559 uap talk hell yeah 719 00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:08,840 i'm always on that red argentinian 720 00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:10,000 malbec 721 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:14,400 keeps the conversation loose yeah 722 00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:17,520 no i i do think you know we you know 723 00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:19,120 we are talking to the right people but 724 00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:21,200 you know it it might be interesting to 725 00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:23,120 you know really make a bit of a 726 00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:24,559 documentary effort 727 00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:26,320 yes that's the thing i've just seen 728 00:26:29,430 --> 00:26:27,840 scott in the comments there say film it 729 00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:29,440 and make a road trip documentary i mean 730 00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:31,600 that's a great idea 731 00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:38,870 yeah man i'm down for that man you're 732 00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:41,360 the filmmaker so 733 00:26:44,710 --> 00:26:43,440 you can make make it look glossy and 734 00:26:48,789 --> 00:26:44,720 make us make me look 735 00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:48,799 pretty and though you know what 736 00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:51,760 uh like i i love the gorilla filmmaking 737 00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:52,640 uh 738 00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:00,080 two small decent cameras 739 00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:03,600 and um we'll do this hell yeah it's on 740 00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:05,760 man i'm serious as well man i'm ready to 741 00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:06,720 go 742 00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:09,279 and you know it will be like it probably 743 00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:11,200 will turn out like a blair witch project 744 00:27:15,909 --> 00:27:13,120 or something you know 745 00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:15,919 no just joking hey you never know man i 746 00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:17,200 might get emotional i might get 747 00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:20,720 emotional on camera 748 00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:23,520 did you see blair witch hell yeah hell 749 00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:24,320 yeah 750 00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:27,120 loved it man it was uh it started off 751 00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:29,279 that whole genre of like 752 00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:32,000 of that type of film didn't it really 753 00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:32,960 definitely 754 00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:35,440 you know it i i didn't think of that 755 00:27:40,149 --> 00:27:36,480 film for a while 756 00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:40,159 until i uh went to susta bear air base 757 00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:44,000 why did it have that spooky feeling dude 758 00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:46,640 nice yeah that's what that's what i want 759 00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:47,679 man 760 00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:52,480 dude i want to feel the vibes that's the 761 00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:54,399 thing i want to get that kind of 762 00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:56,159 you know hairs on your arm standing up 763 00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:57,520 and all that [\h__\h] ah 764 00:28:01,269 --> 00:28:00,399 yeah yeah yeah i i'm highly receptive to 765 00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:01,279 energy 766 00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:03,360 and this sounds you know very uh 767 00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:04,799 spiritual but 768 00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:07,120 i just feel [\h__\h] and you know the the 769 00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:08,080 the air was 770 00:28:14,830 --> 00:28:11,760 heavy no i don't know what it was yeah 771 00:28:18,549 --> 00:28:14,840 yeah that sounds awesome 772 00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:18,559 hmm so 773 00:28:25,029 --> 00:28:22,640 um you have been preparing for lou 774 00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:25,039 quite a bit i'm i'm i'm excited for your 775 00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:25,840 questions 776 00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:36,149 well just a little hint of some of the 777 00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:37,600 questions like the areas i'm going to 778 00:28:40,789 --> 00:28:38,399 touch on 779 00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:40,799 is that what you're asking no yeah i 780 00:28:43,830 --> 00:28:42,000 mean 781 00:28:45,260 --> 00:28:43,840 i just started to talk dutch to you i'm 782 00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:45,270 sorry 783 00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:49,120 [Laughter] 784 00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:52,640 um no no no like i i'm i'm 785 00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:55,360 curious you know do you have like a like 786 00:29:05,510 --> 00:28:56,080 a 787 00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:05,520 uh best question this is why 788 00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:07,360 the way i've been planning it is i'm not 789 00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:09,520 i'm not going i'm not going to start off 790 00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:10,240 slightly 791 00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:12,240 slow and work my way up towards the end 792 00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:13,600 of the interview i don't want to do it 793 00:29:16,549 --> 00:29:15,760 like that i want to go up and down i 794 00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:16,559 want to 795 00:29:24,149 --> 00:29:22,950 in a respectful but i'll always be 796 00:29:26,549 --> 00:29:24,159 respectful 797 00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:26,559 i just want to keep him on his toes you 798 00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:27,440 know he's 799 00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:30,559 he's told me via email he doesn't want 800 00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:32,000 to know anything about what i'm going to 801 00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:32,320 ask 802 00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:34,960 he wants it to be straight off the cuff 803 00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:36,480 freestyle it 804 00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:38,960 um he's amazing i'm going to go in on 805 00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:40,480 the science a little bit and i know 806 00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:42,320 it was not him that was directly doing 807 00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:43,919 the science when he was in atip it was 808 00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:45,600 it was other people it was hell put off 809 00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:47,120 and oh you know 810 00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:49,760 eric davis was involved but don't you 811 00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:51,520 underestimate lou elizando 812 00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:53,360 well this is this this is why the 813 00:29:56,549 --> 00:29:54,640 science questions are going to come 814 00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:56,559 because i know he knows things 815 00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:58,320 christina christina just told me 816 00:30:02,630 --> 00:29:59,760 yesterday he was actually 817 00:30:04,149 --> 00:30:02,640 teaching on universities physics this 818 00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:04,159 dude is a bonafide 819 00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:07,360 yeah he knows he knows his stuff so 820 00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:10,559 luke if you ask him science questions 821 00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:14,799 prepare to get a very long answer 822 00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:16,960 hey that's fine man that's absolutely 823 00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,559 fine that gives me a chance to get ready 824 00:30:22,310 --> 00:30:20,640 with the next one to follow it 825 00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:22,320 yeah but you know what the the thing 826 00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:23,840 about lewis um 827 00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:27,120 look i'm an idiot i'm a dumb guy 828 00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:30,000 but whenever he explains uh uh science 829 00:30:34,149 --> 00:30:31,120 to me i 830 00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:34,159 get it you know exactly yeah i mean that 831 00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:35,520 that part of the interview you did with 832 00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:36,640 him where he talked about the different 833 00:30:39,450 --> 00:30:38,240 shapes and the way they formed and stuff 834 00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:39,460 like that i mean 835 00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:41,600 [Music] 836 00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:45,679 exactly um yeah i think i'm gonna even 837 00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:47,520 try and expand on that a little bit if i 838 00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:49,919 can do it did you see my dumb face when 839 00:30:52,630 --> 00:30:50,399 he when 840 00:30:53,990 --> 00:30:52,640 uh you know when he unfolded that for me 841 00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:54,000 like i could 842 00:30:57,590 --> 00:30:55,520 tell you know everybody that was 843 00:30:58,630 --> 00:30:57,600 watching that had exactly the same face 844 00:31:02,070 --> 00:30:58,640 man 845 00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:02,080 i know i did yeah oh oh 846 00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:04,720 yeah it was crazy it was crazy man i 847 00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:06,080 couldn't believe it 848 00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:08,159 it's it by the way that that episode is 849 00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:09,360 being watched like 850 00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:12,320 mofo i i think i now have nearly 25k 851 00:31:16,070 --> 00:31:12,960 views 852 00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:16,080 no way man that's so sweet man 853 00:31:21,029 --> 00:31:19,440 yeah so sweet i love it yeah oh yeah 854 00:31:23,509 --> 00:31:21,039 man you deserve that you deserve a lot 855 00:31:26,789 --> 00:31:23,519 more in my opinion but you'll get there 856 00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:26,799 you'll get there yeah but you're not a 857 00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:28,000 dutch 858 00:31:33,509 --> 00:31:32,000 you're one of the most important 859 00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:33,519 people with the youtube channel covering 860 00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:35,360 this subject 861 00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:38,799 globally you know well well you know i i 862 00:31:44,549 --> 00:31:39,360 have a 863 00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:44,559 know it's 864 00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:47,440 it it's not big but it's big enough you 865 00:31:52,149 --> 00:31:48,799 know it's growing 866 00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:52,159 it is yeah it is growing fast and um 867 00:31:58,470 --> 00:31:55,600 you know i i like two months ago 868 00:32:00,549 --> 00:31:58,480 if you would ask me if this was gonna be 869 00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:00,559 like reality two months later 870 00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:02,799 you know i i i would have laughed in 871 00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:03,760 your face you know 872 00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:06,880 like a international youtuber about uaps 873 00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:08,320 no 874 00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:12,880 same 875 00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:19,200 1 000 followers on instagram that was it 876 00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:22,159 no connections no friends no one to talk 877 00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:23,760 to about the subject and now 878 00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:26,880 i mean jesus christ it's crazy but your 879 00:32:29,509 --> 00:32:28,480 instagram your instagram was already 880 00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:29,519 huge 881 00:32:33,029 --> 00:32:30,880 no it wasn't that's the thing it would 882 00:32:33,509 --> 00:32:33,039 literally january was 1 000 followers 883 00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:33,519 and now 884 00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:37,679 16. yeah no really yeah 885 00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:40,320 six months it's gone from 1000 to 16 886 00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:41,200 000. 887 00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:45,279 how did you pull that off i have no idea 888 00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:47,279 this is why i still don't get it man i 889 00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:48,720 mean 890 00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:50,720 i just do what i do and if people like 891 00:32:53,269 --> 00:32:52,720 it then hey i'm glad and it keeps me 892 00:32:56,230 --> 00:32:53,279 going 893 00:32:57,990 --> 00:32:56,240 it it motivates me i'm certainly not in 894 00:32:58,630 --> 00:32:58,000 it for the followers but the reach that 895 00:33:01,509 --> 00:32:58,640 i'm getting 896 00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:01,519 has opened up doors it's open allowed me 897 00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:03,360 to meet people like yourself and 898 00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:05,919 be able to get these interviews people 899 00:33:09,350 --> 00:33:07,279 like yourself who said vinnie you've got 900 00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:09,360 to start a youtube channel so here i am 901 00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:10,480 and you know 902 00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:12,960 look yeah look you really represent the 903 00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:14,559 uk now you know i re 904 00:33:20,789 --> 00:33:19,039 represent the netherlands but uh the uk 905 00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:20,799 you know it's a it's a very interesting 906 00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:22,960 uh source of information you know there 907 00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:24,960 there's a lot going on there 908 00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:28,320 uh so i'm not just excited you uh opened 909 00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:29,760 up your youtube and your 910 00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:31,760 you've already had that instagram but 911 00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:33,360 i'm excited for you to 912 00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:35,919 you know deep dive into whatever has 913 00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:38,000 happened there and what is going on 914 00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:40,720 yeah yeah there's so much to come and so 915 00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:41,679 much work to do 916 00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:44,399 but i'm ready man i'm totally ready i 917 00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:45,600 know what i've got to do and that's a 918 00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:47,039 beautiful feeling you know 919 00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:49,360 vinnie is wired yeah i'm yeah i'm ready 920 00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:50,880 man i'm feeling pumped 921 00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:53,279 i'm excited i don't this is why i keep 922 00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:54,960 saying to people i don't 923 00:33:58,630 --> 00:33:56,320 it doesn't matter what happens on the 924 00:34:00,870 --> 00:33:58,640 25th of june with this report 925 00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:00,880 there's so much work to do beyond that 926 00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:02,640 going forward whether it takes months 927 00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:03,440 years 928 00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:05,600 however long i'm ready man i'm i'm in it 929 00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:06,480 for the long 930 00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:10,399 journey yeah yeah yeah yeah 931 00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:13,119 you know the and another thing you know 932 00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:14,720 this 933 00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:18,079 just die 934 00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:19,919 off like a like a candle in the wind or 935 00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:22,240 something you know this is going to go 936 00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:24,240 this is going to go you know so 937 00:34:28,629 --> 00:34:26,320 absolutely man 938 00:34:29,349 --> 00:34:28,639 the door has been swung wide open and it 939 00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:29,359 ain't closing 940 00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:33,040 the door absolutely that's 941 00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:34,879 it uh i'm just going to shout out this 942 00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:36,480 comment here vinnie where was it i 943 00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:38,240 missed it something about the background 944 00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:40,720 the background for my thing is olaf 945 00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:41,760 rochner 946 00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:43,440 um i will i will be putting it in the 947 00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:46,079 description yeah finish this but olaf 948 00:34:49,109 --> 00:34:48,560 is probably the best or one of the best 949 00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:49,119 uav 950 00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:51,440 artists out there i was gonna ask you 951 00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:53,200 why are you insulting me with your 952 00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:54,480 amazing background 953 00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:56,240 every i think every video i've done i've 954 00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:58,640 had a different painting by olaf 955 00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:00,720 he is incredible he's captured some of 956 00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:02,560 the most famous cases 957 00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:04,400 out there this one is actually from a 958 00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:06,320 case that i did recently with uap 959 00:35:10,990 --> 00:35:07,760 colombia this is the uss 960 00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:11,000 america case from from colombia in 961 00:35:16,150 --> 00:35:14,480 2014. cool man olaf 962 00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:16,160 yeah olaf he's actually he's he's 963 00:35:20,069 --> 00:35:17,760 actually is he there 964 00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:20,079 hooked me up hey listen he's actually 965 00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:21,440 doing me sir he's doing 966 00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:23,359 my own like youtube banner and stuff at 967 00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:25,200 the moment i'm really excited for him to 968 00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:26,800 be doing that for me um he's he's 969 00:35:29,589 --> 00:35:27,920 incredible 970 00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:29,599 by the way vinnie do you know you can 971 00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:31,440 like uh pull up uh some of these 972 00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:32,640 comments into the 973 00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:34,960 into the frame yes i keep forgetting 974 00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:35,760 that i'm so 975 00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:38,000 new to this max thank you ma'am yeah 976 00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:39,280 that's really you know 977 00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:41,359 you know you have a great fans you know 978 00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:42,960 give him some love 979 00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:44,560 i know i just i'm just going to pull up 980 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:45,760 i'm just going to pull up the really 981 00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:47,050 nice ones 982 00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:49,200 [Laughter] 983 00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:50,880 there we go yeah what's up with your 984 00:35:54,390 --> 00:35:52,960 background yeah it is a painting um 985 00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:54,400 actually i say that i think it's 986 00:35:58,950 --> 00:35:56,800 actually done on a tablet 987 00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:58,960 um and do you know what thing is about 988 00:36:03,510 --> 00:36:00,480 olaf is 989 00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:03,520 he does them super quick and look how 990 00:36:07,589 --> 00:36:05,359 detailed they are man 991 00:36:09,030 --> 00:36:07,599 it's crazy i'm gonna put all his stuff 992 00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:09,040 in the description 993 00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:11,040 when i update when the video goes live i 994 00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:12,400 might not get around to it till tomorrow 995 00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:13,200 but 996 00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:15,040 everybody needs to check this guy out he 997 00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:16,400 is incredible and also 998 00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:18,640 he's he's super knowledgeable about the 999 00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:20,640 whole uap topic as well 1000 00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:22,880 he has to be look man i see tic tacs i 1001 00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:25,040 see orbs you know 1002 00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:27,760 and it's quite it's quite nice it's 1003 00:36:30,790 --> 00:36:29,040 really beautiful 1004 00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:30,800 i've just i've just popped his name into 1005 00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:32,800 the comments there he's on instagram 1006 00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:34,000 he's on twitter 1007 00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:36,079 oh man that that that that's like a porn 1008 00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:38,160 name man 1009 00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:40,800 i think he's from i mean i apologize 1010 00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:42,000 olaf if you see this i 1011 00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:44,800 think he's from sweden it sounds uh 1012 00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:47,280 scandinavian yeah he is scandinavian 1013 00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:49,839 i should know i should know better my my 1014 00:36:55,109 --> 00:36:51,760 brain is always filled with so much 1015 00:36:58,470 --> 00:36:57,430 norwegian or swedish he might be 1016 00:37:03,430 --> 00:36:58,480 norwegian actually 1017 00:37:07,589 --> 00:37:03,440 ah anyway sorry olaf i love you man 1018 00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:09,109 it's the only thing i know it means i 1019 00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:11,119 love you in 1020 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:14,160 i think swedish yeah you know more than 1021 00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:14,970 i do 1022 00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:17,200 [Laughter] 1023 00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:19,040 but yeah that's the thing he sees he 1024 00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:20,720 lets me use his artwork he doesn't ask 1025 00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:21,599 for anything 1026 00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:24,400 and he's just you can't ask for a nicer 1027 00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:25,520 dude 1028 00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:28,960 so well big eso to olaf 1029 00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:32,480 yeah right so let's talk 1030 00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:36,160 about who hey dude i'm gonna ask you 1031 00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:38,320 if you can give us a little hint about 1032 00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:40,079 what you've got coming up 1033 00:37:44,069 --> 00:37:41,040 because you've got to have some 1034 00:37:46,070 --> 00:37:44,079 interviews in the bag 1035 00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:46,080 i okay 1036 00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:48,880 [Laughter] 1037 00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:52,160 put him on the spot well 1038 00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:55,440 um okay i'll give this away i am 1039 00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:58,320 trying to get a former president i knew 1040 00:38:01,270 --> 00:37:59,920 it do you know what that tweet you put 1041 00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:01,280 out the other day 1042 00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:04,480 do you remember yeah i knew there was a 1043 00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:05,920 hint there man 1044 00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:07,680 yeah i don't know if i'm gonna pull it 1045 00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:09,119 off but uh 1046 00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:12,079 wow i'm trying for sure yeah that's 1047 00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:13,680 incredible 1048 00:38:19,829 --> 00:38:17,839 look i i there's nothing there yet 1049 00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:19,839 i'm trying i'm not saying it's gonna 1050 00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:21,680 happen yeah but if you can get harry 1051 00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:23,040 reid then i i 1052 00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:24,960 i'm fairly confident that you'll get 1053 00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:26,400 whoever you want 1054 00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:29,520 no no no no no no no no no no 1055 00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:31,760 and look there's a lot of uh amsterdam 1056 00:38:37,349 --> 00:38:33,520 bluff over here you know like 1057 00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:37,359 that's what but um i i'm trying 1058 00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:39,440 uh so good man that's all good i 1059 00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:41,040 appreciate you just saying that much 1060 00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:43,920 to be honest and there's a scientist uh 1061 00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:46,079 i'm excited for i got approached by a 1062 00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:47,440 guy 1063 00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:50,480 um and i might i might have a 1064 00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:54,480 podcast with uh professor avi lu the 1065 00:39:01,030 --> 00:38:57,599 woman guy yeah yeah 1066 00:39:02,710 --> 00:39:01,040 that's cool man i've actually been um 1067 00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:02,720 i was in contact with rich hoffman of 1068 00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:05,760 the scu a couple of weeks ago 1069 00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:07,440 um so i might be you might be getting 1070 00:39:10,630 --> 00:39:09,040 him on mine i've got quite a lot of 1071 00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:10,640 people i'm talking to it's just getting 1072 00:39:15,349 --> 00:39:12,240 that date you know that 1073 00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:15,359 confirmation date it's uh there's a lot 1074 00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:17,040 of back and forth conversations going on 1075 00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:18,560 at the moment 1076 00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:21,599 yeah okay i'm excited for it 1077 00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:23,760 yeah bro yeah so many things i mean i 1078 00:39:27,829 --> 00:39:25,119 can say i've got 1079 00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:27,839 uh james and ian doley coming on from 1080 00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:29,520 engaging the phenomenon 1081 00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:31,599 awesome uh i've got the undead gaucho 1082 00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:33,119 coming on in in the near 1083 00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:36,960 future oh i love that guy yeah 1084 00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:39,119 yeah yeah yeah i want to talk to him too 1085 00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:40,960 oh really i mean he was actually on 1086 00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:42,000 instagram a minute ago 1087 00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:49,510 i love that so much we've only spoken in 1088 00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:49,839 the 1089 00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:52,960 you know on instagram and and stuff like 1090 00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:54,400 that yeah he's not active anymore he was 1091 00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:56,800 active a little while ago i was 1092 00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:58,480 yeah i was going to speak to him we'll 1093 00:40:01,430 --> 00:39:59,920 get maybe hey listen 1094 00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:01,440 when i get him to come on then you're 1095 00:40:05,109 --> 00:40:03,119 very welcome to join us 1096 00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:05,119 awesome thank you because i think i 1097 00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:06,720 think a three-way conversation 1098 00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:08,480 is is better than a two-way this thing i 1099 00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:14,309 well hey bro let's find it fourth let's 1100 00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:20,870 um no no no look look i 1101 00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:24,880 i think i love i love these collabs you 1102 00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:25,359 know 1103 00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:27,280 let's uh let's do that more absolutely 1104 00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:29,119 that whole panel discussion as well it 1105 00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:30,720 really is good to get as many heads 1106 00:40:33,670 --> 00:40:32,240 together as you can when especially when 1107 00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:33,680 you're talking about this subject you 1108 00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:35,280 know as many angles as you can get 1109 00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:36,160 together 1110 00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:38,880 you know it's great yeah so by the way i 1111 00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:39,680 was wondering 1112 00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:42,319 the the how many people are right now uh 1113 00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:42,960 looking 1114 00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:45,680 can you see that or how do i know oh i 1115 00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:46,800 think we've got 16 1116 00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:49,119 okay that's cool i'm happy with that 1117 00:40:52,069 --> 00:40:50,160 it's better 1118 00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:52,079 you got to upskill that you know yeah 1119 00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:54,000 but i i only put 1120 00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:56,240 the the shout out on instagram like what 1121 00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:57,680 30 minutes beforehand 1122 00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:59,359 as most of my other ones i've been 1123 00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:00,720 promoting for a week or 1124 00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:03,920 two weeks or so so hey it's all good man 1125 00:41:09,270 --> 00:41:04,960 you know 1126 00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:09,280 well look i'm gonna i i'm um 1127 00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:13,200 i'm gonna predict the future no no 1128 00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:15,920 i'm gonna predict the future like after 1129 00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:16,640 your lou 1130 00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:20,560 elizondo interview 1131 00:41:23,450 --> 00:41:22,720 yeah i think it's going to be um yeah a 1132 00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:23,460 bit more 1133 00:41:28,069 --> 00:41:25,760 [Laughter] 1134 00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:28,079 maybe maybe we'll we'll see man not if i 1135 00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:29,040 have to stick on this 1136 00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:32,400 old school internet connection we'll see 1137 00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:36,319 yeah i'll get that fixed in the future 1138 00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:38,319 you might need to be better off wireless 1139 00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:40,400 you know the thing is 1140 00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:43,920 yeah maybe yeah i mean 1141 00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:46,240 i did i did i recorded an interview 1142 00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:48,720 which i've not put out on youtube yet 1143 00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:52,640 um and i actually hot spotted off my 1144 00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:55,680 my cell phone yeah 4g 1145 00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:57,680 that's like that's it's full i only get 1146 00:42:01,990 --> 00:41:59,520 4g at the moment here 1147 00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:02,000 right um but it worked that the video 1148 00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:03,599 came out well i just need to upload it 1149 00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:05,200 to youtube it was with a friend of mine 1150 00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:05,760 and 1151 00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:09,359 i'll 1152 00:42:15,829 --> 00:42:13,200 construction industry 1153 00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:15,839 and they they're putting up this big 1154 00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:17,760 telemetry station in florida 1155 00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:21,200 the this is by the the us air force and 1156 00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:23,839 he was talking to a contractor about it 1157 00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:25,520 and he joked oh these would be able to 1158 00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:27,280 pick up uap because it's such a big 1159 00:42:31,829 --> 00:42:28,240 radar tower 1160 00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:31,839 and the guy was like yep like dropping 1161 00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:33,760 hints left right and center 1162 00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:35,680 and it's all highly classified 1163 00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:37,520 information that will come from it 1164 00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:38,880 it's just a great interview as well 1165 00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:40,240 he'll be live on youtube in the next 1166 00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:41,599 couple of days 1167 00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:49,829 in my feed uh today actually i i saw a 1168 00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:50,319 uh 1169 00:42:59,589 --> 00:42:54,319 show 1170 00:43:01,750 --> 00:42:59,599 experience with the uap 1171 00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:01,760 15 years ago so i'm excited for her for 1172 00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:03,200 that you know nice 1173 00:43:06,790 --> 00:43:05,359 i i haven't seen anything in holland uh 1174 00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:06,800 like that before so 1175 00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:08,640 that's really actually i put something 1176 00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:11,760 out yesterday it was a dutch pilot 1177 00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:14,240 talking about an experience he had uh i 1178 00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:15,599 think 1179 00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:17,599 that's the same guy oh that's the same 1180 00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:19,520 guy yeah that's the same guy 1181 00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:21,440 yeah let me bring it up um yeah it was 1182 00:43:25,349 --> 00:43:23,119 about i think it was about a while back 1183 00:43:27,990 --> 00:43:25,359 25 years ago maybe something like that 1184 00:43:29,589 --> 00:43:28,000 i i i think 15 or something but the 1185 00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:29,599 description the way i mean it was 1186 00:43:33,510 --> 00:43:31,359 subtitled someone had done the subtitles 1187 00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:33,520 for it but the the story sounded 1188 00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:36,240 really compelling man like really i can 1189 00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:38,400 i can translate 1190 00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:42,000 uh here it is dutch ua 1191 00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:45,119 dutch klm pilot yeah klm is like the 1192 00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:48,880 the the the the main the main airline 1193 00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:52,240 yeah so yeah he was flying from the us 1194 00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:55,599 to amsterdam 1195 00:44:00,150 --> 00:43:58,640 okay yeah so are you looking into that 1196 00:44:02,309 --> 00:44:00,160 case then or 1197 00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:02,319 well i i just found out tonight uh 1198 00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:04,079 tonight yeah so i'm gonna 1199 00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:13,430 his name is flavio pasquino uh i know 1200 00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:14,880 his brother eddie 1201 00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:18,319 uh long story it's a small world 1202 00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:21,760 yeah it is man it is that's all good 1203 00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:23,280 gavin gavin in the comments is asking 1204 00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:24,880 where in florida um so the guy 1205 00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:26,640 interviewed jeff he lives near 1206 00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:30,079 tampa bay so um yeah 1207 00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:31,760 i'll be posting when i like when i send 1208 00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:33,280 this video live in a couple of days my 1209 00:44:35,589 --> 00:44:34,160 interview with jeff 1210 00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:35,599 i will be it will be all over my 1211 00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:37,280 instagram and twitter and stuff so you 1212 00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:38,960 guys will all see it 1213 00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:40,960 um and i i'd like some feedback on it 1214 00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:42,400 because the story is 1215 00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:44,400 incredible jeff also goes into his own 1216 00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:46,720 uap sighting of these triangles that he 1217 00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:47,280 saw 1218 00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:50,560 it's a great interview man oh man hey 1219 00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:52,400 max and we've probably talked we have 1220 00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:53,680 talked about this before but 1221 00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:57,040 your ufo sighting oh [\h__\h] yeah everybody 1222 00:45:01,670 --> 00:45:00,000 keeps asking me about that i still watch 1223 00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:01,680 it because you sent it to me and every 1224 00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:03,599 few days i go through my photos and i go 1225 00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:05,200 oh what's this then i look and oh that's 1226 00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:06,720 max's sighting 1227 00:45:13,349 --> 00:45:09,920 right have you put it out anywhere 1228 00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:13,359 i did actually uh the night i saw it 1229 00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:15,760 i sent it to luis jimenez you know the 1230 00:45:19,990 --> 00:45:16,960 the big 1231 00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:20,000 yeah yeah yeah and uh he's coming on 1232 00:45:23,829 --> 00:45:21,520 here as well by the way 1233 00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:23,839 oh that's cool i loved it kid so you can 1234 00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:25,680 join me for that one as well man 1235 00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:29,280 ah i love it i love it but yeah 1236 00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:32,960 you sent it to him yeah like 1237 00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:35,119 maybe a couple of hours after i uh i 1238 00:45:39,349 --> 00:45:36,079 filmed it 1239 00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:39,359 and and um maybe i should 1240 00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:42,400 ju and they used it in their uh live 1241 00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:45,119 podcast but you can actually look it 1242 00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:46,400 back and look it up 1243 00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:49,440 okay uh so i might uh ask them or maybe 1244 00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:50,480 i will make a 1245 00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:54,240 uh a little clip about that do it 1246 00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:56,400 because i keep i'll bring it up as well 1247 00:45:59,349 --> 00:45:58,480 because i really want to post it on my 1248 00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:59,359 instagram 1249 00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:01,760 oh yo go for it man you know you're free 1250 00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:02,960 yeah sure yeah yeah 1251 00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:05,440 that's okay a nice discussion and yeah 1252 00:46:10,270 --> 00:46:06,960 actually you're liberating me 1253 00:46:11,829 --> 00:46:10,280 because they they keep on busting my 1254 00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:11,839 b-a-l-l-s 1255 00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:15,599 about that i've talked about it so many 1256 00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:16,079 times 1257 00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:17,280 in the past and i've never really 1258 00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:19,280 actually asked you out right max can i 1259 00:46:23,190 --> 00:46:20,160 post this 1260 00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:23,200 so i haven't but feel free man because 1261 00:46:26,069 --> 00:46:25,040 it's amazing i think i remember the 1262 00:46:27,910 --> 00:46:26,079 night 1263 00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:27,920 i think you actually messaged me going 1264 00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:29,520 bro you're still awake 1265 00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:32,880 yeah that's true that is true i had 1266 00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:35,920 no one to talk to i felt so lonely 1267 00:46:40,790 --> 00:46:39,520 i i was like i was like what the hell is 1268 00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:40,800 going on right now 1269 00:46:44,470 --> 00:46:42,720 and i wanted to talk to someone like on 1270 00:46:47,990 --> 00:46:44,480 on the same mindset 1271 00:46:51,270 --> 00:46:48,000 mate yeah thank god i found lewis 1272 00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:51,280 yeah but it's it was it's a really crazy 1273 00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:53,200 video 1274 00:46:56,309 --> 00:46:55,200 dude tell us about it let's let's re 1275 00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:56,319 rehash it talk 1276 00:47:00,150 --> 00:46:57,760 to tell everyone who's watching about it 1277 00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:00,160 because they want to hear it look 1278 00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:06,790 i have never seen a ufo 1279 00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:10,480 uap in my life before but i started 1280 00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:12,160 covering this stuff 1281 00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:15,280 and you know you know when you read and 1282 00:47:19,829 --> 00:47:18,079 and and talk and and see a lot about the 1283 00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:19,839 subject 1284 00:47:24,549 --> 00:47:23,040 and have a bad habit uh you start 1285 00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:24,559 smoking on your balcony 1286 00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:27,920 uh you know you you 1287 00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:30,160 you tend to look up to the stars to the 1288 00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:31,200 sky yeah 1289 00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:33,520 yeah you know and and you know i i i 1290 00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:35,680 keep on doing that i'm like 1291 00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:37,599 what the hell is going on up there you 1292 00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:39,680 know like that always but now 1293 00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:43,119 but now i see on my balcony uh 1294 00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:46,480 uh like hold on i see like 1295 00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:49,520 three light dots you know i thought it 1296 00:47:53,190 --> 00:47:50,880 was like a 1297 00:47:56,470 --> 00:47:53,200 maybe stars or something but now they 1298 00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:58,870 like that and i'm looking around in the 1299 00:48:02,950 --> 00:48:00,160 sky and i see 1300 00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:02,960 more like these dots like moving around 1301 00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:05,280 like this like this 1302 00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:08,800 and i'm like holy [\h__\h] ran inside got my 1303 00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:09,520 phone 1304 00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:11,680 but there's a lot of uh light poisoning 1305 00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:13,520 in amsterdam right it's a big city yeah 1306 00:48:17,829 --> 00:48:13,920 so 1307 00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:17,839 especially where i live 1308 00:48:24,549 --> 00:48:20,960 it's it's just big city um 1309 00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:24,559 but i i could see a little bit 1310 00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:26,640 but then what you what i actually 1311 00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:28,400 captured was one of those 1312 00:48:35,349 --> 00:48:32,559 three just lit up and 1313 00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:35,359 moved down like like in a light flash 1314 00:48:41,109 --> 00:48:37,839 and i was like 1315 00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:41,119 wow that's well and you captured that 1316 00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:42,880 that's what i saw and i was like what 1317 00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:45,520 i did get for that i did capture that 1318 00:48:48,150 --> 00:48:46,240 but you know 1319 00:48:50,069 --> 00:48:48,160 but the the [\h__\h] up thing is you know 1320 00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:50,079 there was so much more 1321 00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:52,480 but the only thing you can really see is 1322 00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:53,440 that 1323 00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:55,680 it was like i was it was like what the 1324 00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:56,800 hell is 1325 00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:00,079 and okay this is gonna sound crazy but i 1326 00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:03,359 i have it i i keep seeing [\h__\h] 1327 00:49:07,589 --> 00:49:06,480 and i keep seeing it you know like 1328 00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:07,599 maybe that's because you went to 1329 00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:09,760 sisterberg that time and it's following 1330 00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:10,720 you 1331 00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:14,000 i don't know what is going on right now 1332 00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:16,000 people are thinking i'm crazy maybe i am 1333 00:49:21,670 --> 00:49:18,160 going i am going crazy but 1334 00:49:23,670 --> 00:49:21,680 i keep you know i just i keep like 1335 00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:23,680 not every night but like once in a while 1336 00:49:30,230 --> 00:49:25,760 i i'll just notice one 1337 00:49:33,270 --> 00:49:30,240 and i'm like [\h__\h] you you know 1338 00:49:33,990 --> 00:49:33,280 am i going nuts what then let's go man 1339 00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:34,000 you're lucky 1340 00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:36,800 that you're very lucky man maybe that's 1341 00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:38,640 all it takes that one sighting and it 1342 00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:40,559 switches you on somehow inside and then 1343 00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:42,000 you're able to just see them again i 1344 00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:44,319 don't know man there's many reasons 1345 00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:46,319 well you know there's this thing i keep 1346 00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:47,839 on thinking about you know i 1347 00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:51,680 i've been uh i'm a history freak 1348 00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:54,000 and one of the things i i read about was 1349 00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:56,480 the native americans 1350 00:50:03,190 --> 00:50:00,400 uh some people couldn't spot 1351 00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:03,200 the ships in front of their shores of 1352 00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:04,960 the europeans when they 1353 00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:08,480 were coming because their 1354 00:50:12,230 --> 00:50:11,040 uh their minds their their their brains 1355 00:50:14,069 --> 00:50:12,240 couldn't comprehend 1356 00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:14,079 something that they hadn't experienced 1357 00:50:18,069 --> 00:50:16,000 before or hadn't seen before 1358 00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:18,079 so they you know they just didn't see it 1359 00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:19,359 but there were other people who 1360 00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:22,160 did see it you know that makes sense man 1361 00:50:26,309 --> 00:50:23,760 i've been looking into that kind of 1362 00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:26,319 area the last few days and yeah i read a 1363 00:50:31,510 --> 00:50:28,480 really interesting 1364 00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:31,520 uh paper that you may get two people 1365 00:50:35,109 --> 00:50:32,559 seeing the same thing 1366 00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:35,119 one person might see as a sphere or a 1367 00:50:38,549 --> 00:50:35,760 disc 1368 00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:38,559 another person might see the same object 1369 00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:40,720 but perceive it as a triangle 1370 00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:42,720 and it's because of the way that the 1371 00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:44,480 object is interacting with 1372 00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:46,960 with the mind you know on some crazy 1373 00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:48,640 consciousness level 1374 00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:50,400 you know um because there's been 1375 00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:53,200 obviously been a lot of talk about this 1376 00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:56,960 um ultra dimensional ultra terrestrial 1377 00:51:02,069 --> 00:51:00,160 thing which we don't understand yet that 1378 00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:02,079 can really affect people's minds and the 1379 00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:03,440 consciousness and that 1380 00:51:07,510 --> 00:51:06,160 that level that is just beyond what we 1381 00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:07,520 understand at the moment so i've been 1382 00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:08,000 trying to look 1383 00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:09,760 into that kind of thing it's quite hard 1384 00:51:13,349 --> 00:51:11,440 to research to be honest but 1385 00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:13,359 yeah i'm starting to open up to that 1386 00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:15,520 kind of thing a little bit more and it 1387 00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:18,960 you know it's interesting so 1388 00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:22,000 vincent have you ever seen a 1389 00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:25,680 uav no my friend i haven't and i say 1390 00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:28,640 i haven't i've seen things in the sky um 1391 00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:30,240 but i've always managed to 1392 00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:32,400 figure out what they are you know it's 1393 00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:34,240 the beauty of having apps that you know 1394 00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:36,240 star tracking apps and satellite 1395 00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:38,400 tracking apps and things like that so 1396 00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:39,599 i've seen things and i've been blown 1397 00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:41,280 away and then like straight away i go to 1398 00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:42,480 my phone get the apps out 1399 00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:43,920 point it upwards and you can see that 1400 00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:45,599 it's the iss or 1401 00:51:49,430 --> 00:51:48,960 there's a meteor shower things like that 1402 00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:49,440 so 1403 00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:52,800 i think i've managed to work out what 1404 00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:54,160 they are 1405 00:52:00,549 --> 00:51:57,680 i think so in my eyes i've never had one 1406 00:52:01,190 --> 00:52:00,559 well yeah yeah i saw a starlink too you 1407 00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:01,200 know 1408 00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:05,760 uh in one line 1409 00:52:10,870 --> 00:52:09,119 multiple satellites going like in in in 1410 00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:10,880 the same direction you know you know 1411 00:52:14,069 --> 00:52:12,319 it's ilan 1412 00:52:15,670 --> 00:52:14,079 yeah but the thing is in my opinion i i 1413 00:52:17,190 --> 00:52:15,680 don't see the fact that i've not had an 1414 00:52:19,270 --> 00:52:17,200 experience as 1415 00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:19,280 as a negative it doesn't stop me from 1416 00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:20,640 researching and looking into this 1417 00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:21,119 subject 1418 00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:23,760 very different no i i didn't have 1419 00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:24,880 anything 1420 00:52:31,750 --> 00:52:28,640 all 1421 00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:31,760 and you know i will bet my [\h__\h] pinky 1422 00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:32,000 on 1423 00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:34,160 it you will get an experience anytime 1424 00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:36,160 soon man i hope so because i do 1425 00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:38,160 i do look up at this guy an awful lot 1426 00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:39,280 man i really do 1427 00:52:43,910 --> 00:52:42,480 i always have um so yeah 1428 00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:43,920 fingers crossed i mean i'll be blown 1429 00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:46,640 away i'll be blown away i'll be excited 1430 00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:48,480 it's it's it's a weird experience it's 1431 00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:49,760 very intimate it's 1432 00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:52,800 weird it's weird it's like it's like a 1433 00:52:57,670 --> 00:52:54,480 first kiss or something you know 1434 00:53:01,510 --> 00:52:57,680 it's it's crazy yeah yeah 1435 00:53:04,069 --> 00:53:01,520 and yeah i want that sensation man i 1436 00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:04,079 need it i need it it's like a 1437 00:53:07,510 --> 00:53:05,760 yeah yeah yeah it's it's it's like they 1438 00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:07,520 give you a little little kiss on the 1439 00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:09,040 nose or something 1440 00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:11,920 that's how it feels absolutely man 1441 00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:13,599 that's it that's it 1442 00:53:16,549 --> 00:53:14,640 i see we've got some other 1443 00:53:19,190 --> 00:53:16,559 non-experiences here in the chat and 1444 00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:19,200 that's the thing man like 1445 00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:20,480 we're not any different to the 1446 00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:22,480 experiences we all want the same thing 1447 00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:23,119 and 1448 00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:26,160 yeah it'll happen one day man yeah 1449 00:53:33,349 --> 00:53:29,359 definitely definitely so 1450 00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:33,359 um give me your bucket list who are you 1451 00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:35,359 gonna interview for your podcast uh in 1452 00:53:42,150 --> 00:53:37,040 the coming uh 1453 00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:42,160 months um all right okay i don't like 1454 00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:45,920 doing this but i'm in 1455 00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:49,680 conversation with hold back okay 1456 00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:52,800 richard dolan yeah uh 1457 00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:56,160 james fox oh nice so 1458 00:53:59,190 --> 00:53:57,839 and and this is conversations i've been 1459 00:54:01,589 --> 00:53:59,200 having it's 1460 00:54:03,030 --> 00:54:01,599 they've been they're very busy guys and 1461 00:54:04,710 --> 00:54:03,040 there's a lot of conferences happening 1462 00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:04,720 at the moment in america 1463 00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:06,559 obviously james fox is just a busy man 1464 00:54:10,150 --> 00:54:08,160 in general you know he's just announced 1465 00:54:11,990 --> 00:54:10,160 his new documentary so i bet there's so 1466 00:54:14,309 --> 00:54:12,000 much work going on there 1467 00:54:15,829 --> 00:54:14,319 so we i mean i'm in conversation with 1468 00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:15,839 these people so 1469 00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:17,520 you know the reason why i don't like to 1470 00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:19,359 talk about it is because they might 1471 00:54:22,870 --> 00:54:20,640 turn around and say look i'm busy now 1472 00:54:23,349 --> 00:54:22,880 for six months and then i'm like oh okay 1473 00:54:25,589 --> 00:54:23,359 cool 1474 00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:25,599 so you know i don't want to tease people 1475 00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:26,960 with something that i can't follow 1476 00:54:31,510 --> 00:54:28,640 through with 1477 00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:31,520 so soon but you know yeah they're both 1478 00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:32,640 very nice people 1479 00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:35,040 um see i'm working with the observation 1480 00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:36,559 deck you know the guys that put on the 1481 00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:38,480 virtual conference with the little 1482 00:54:44,069 --> 00:54:42,000 video game style thing that looted that 1483 00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:44,079 conference with uh with dolan the 1484 00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:46,720 interview but is there any uk stuff you 1485 00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:47,440 know like uh 1486 00:54:51,910 --> 00:54:50,240 something from the uk no our only the 1487 00:54:54,789 --> 00:54:51,920 only thing about the uk is nick pope and 1488 00:54:56,309 --> 00:54:54,799 he even lives in america so 1489 00:54:58,069 --> 00:54:56,319 you know that's that's it you know what 1490 00:54:59,829 --> 00:54:58,079 you mean there's nothing here man 1491 00:55:01,190 --> 00:54:59,839 i mean i'd love to do something here 1492 00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:01,200 even if it's just meeting up with 1493 00:55:06,309 --> 00:55:03,920 followers and stuff and doing a little 1494 00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:06,319 gathering or something but look look 1495 00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:07,920 let's make a deal 1496 00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:11,520 uh vinnie uh i want to go to wales 1497 00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:15,440 wales yeah okay dude i'm going in like 1498 00:55:19,589 --> 00:55:16,079 i'm going 1499 00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:19,599 next month next week a little family 1500 00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:20,400 vacation 1501 00:55:25,349 --> 00:55:22,240 out to the coast of wales but yeah bro 1502 00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:25,359 come over man i'll take you to wales 1503 00:55:29,109 --> 00:55:27,359 yeah but you know why i want to go to 1504 00:55:34,150 --> 00:55:29,119 wheels right i want to 1505 00:55:36,549 --> 00:55:34,160 you know what penn turk or yeah bro 1506 00:55:38,789 --> 00:55:36,559 let's go on a little mission now i want 1507 00:55:41,589 --> 00:55:38,799 the the army thing i want to investigate 1508 00:55:43,910 --> 00:55:41,599 i want to talk to people i want to go 1509 00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:43,920 in that's great because i was actually 1510 00:55:47,589 --> 00:55:45,280 researching that case 1511 00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:47,599 up until about three or four weeks ago 1512 00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:49,040 when everything started kicking off with 1513 00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:50,960 this report coming in and that 1514 00:55:54,069 --> 00:55:52,319 i had to put that on hold because there 1515 00:55:55,190 --> 00:55:54,079 was just so much information coming in i 1516 00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:55,200 couldn't do the research 1517 00:55:58,470 --> 00:55:57,119 of that case and keep up to date with 1518 00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:58,480 everything so i kind of 1519 00:56:01,990 --> 00:56:00,480 had started looking into that case it's 1520 00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:02,000 now on hold but bro come 1521 00:56:05,510 --> 00:56:03,680 over we'll pick it back right back up 1522 00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:05,520 and go out there look it's so 1523 00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:07,839 recent it's it's you know like yeah i i 1524 00:56:12,069 --> 00:56:09,520 think it's very interesting 1525 00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:12,079 i agree yeah there you go man i'll come 1526 00:56:15,670 --> 00:56:13,920 to amsterdam we'll go and do that maybe 1527 00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:15,680 go to germany see tim 1528 00:56:24,069 --> 00:56:23,270 nah and then yeah then you come out to 1529 00:56:25,109 --> 00:56:24,079 to me 1530 00:56:27,829 --> 00:56:25,119 i mean because you could fly from 1531 00:56:29,430 --> 00:56:27,839 amsterdam quite close to where i am and 1532 00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:29,440 then we could like road trip it 1533 00:56:34,390 --> 00:56:31,680 to wales yeah so you're in sheffield 1534 00:56:36,390 --> 00:56:34,400 right yeah so you can fly into 1535 00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:36,400 leed sheffield which is only like 40 1536 00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:38,160 minutes away from me 1537 00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:40,559 all right and then you know then we can 1538 00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:42,160 just jump in my car and i'll drive you 1539 00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:42,480 out 1540 00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:44,079 and we'll go to wales probably like 1541 00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:46,400 three hours in the car road trip again 1542 00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:49,920 film that another documentary awesome 1543 00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:52,640 awesome awesome i love i'm loving it i'm 1544 00:56:55,589 --> 00:56:53,280 loving it 1545 00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:55,599 it's awesome great ideas man we gotta do 1546 00:57:00,069 --> 00:56:57,119 it 1547 00:57:00,470 --> 00:57:00,079 that's true that's true my god vincent 1548 00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:00,480 hey 1549 00:57:06,950 --> 00:57:03,760 by the way um i want to 1550 00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:06,960 uh ask anyone watching this 1551 00:57:10,829 --> 00:57:09,760 if you haven't subscribed to the channel 1552 00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:10,839 of 1553 00:57:14,630 --> 00:57:13,839 vinnie you need to [\h__\h] do that right 1554 00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:14,640 now 1555 00:57:20,789 --> 00:57:18,799 because i struggle to keep these 1556 00:57:22,789 --> 00:57:20,799 conversations going you're a pro at this 1557 00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:22,799 man so i appreciate you uh 1558 00:57:26,549 --> 00:57:24,000 doing this kind of thing i don't know 1559 00:57:28,789 --> 00:57:26,559 what i'm doing i'm still new man 1560 00:57:29,589 --> 00:57:28,799 all right just be you man just be i am i 1561 00:57:30,710 --> 00:57:29,599 am it's just 1562 00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:30,720 all those little things like you're 1563 00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:32,400 saying about subscribe i'm used to being 1564 00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:35,200 on instagram going oh yeah go follow and 1565 00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:37,200 yeah i guess it's similar but yeah it's 1566 00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:38,960 just a whole new world 1567 00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:41,200 yeah but look at this beautiful bottom 1568 00:57:45,270 --> 00:57:43,440 look look i'm talking yiddish right now 1569 00:57:46,549 --> 00:57:45,280 look at that bottom look at that bottom 1570 00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:46,559 subscribe 1571 00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:49,040 you know listen this is my friend jeff 1572 00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:50,880 robert blask in the comments here this 1573 00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:52,319 is the guy i did the interview with from 1574 00:57:55,109 --> 00:57:53,920 florida that's coming out on my youtube 1575 00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:55,119 channel soon 1576 00:57:59,109 --> 00:57:57,839 shout out to jeff he's also got a blog 1577 00:58:01,510 --> 00:57:59,119 that he's just started 1578 00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:01,520 um i'm actually i'll put that in the 1579 00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:02,880 description as well everyone needs to go 1580 00:58:06,829 --> 00:58:04,079 and check that out 1581 00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:06,839 now then he's just commented cesium 1582 00:58:12,230 --> 00:58:08,720 isotopes 1583 00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:12,240 this is to do what did he say about my 1584 00:58:15,510 --> 00:58:14,240 mother 1585 00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:15,520 no this is this is what i'm going to be 1586 00:58:20,309 --> 00:58:17,760 trying so good this is what i'm going to 1587 00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:20,319 be talking to mr elizondo about 1588 00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:23,440 cesium isotopes what the hell is that ah 1589 00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:25,599 that's just a little hint for everyone 1590 00:58:31,109 --> 00:58:28,720 i'm gonna google that right now 1591 00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:31,119 no you're not gonna get away with this 1592 00:58:34,309 --> 00:58:32,960 jeff has uh you know i've asked a lot 1593 00:58:36,309 --> 00:58:34,319 i've asked all my followers to send me 1594 00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:36,319 questions you know and i can ask lou a 1595 00:58:39,910 --> 00:58:37,760 few of them i'm going to work some of 1596 00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:39,920 them into what i'm going to ask 1597 00:58:43,109 --> 00:58:41,680 and jeff has come at me with some 1598 00:58:46,710 --> 00:58:43,119 incredible stuff man 1599 00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:46,720 um so shout out jeff 1600 00:58:52,710 --> 00:58:50,240 oh now i know 1601 00:58:53,510 --> 00:58:52,720 all right that's great yeah that's gonna 1602 00:58:56,549 --> 00:58:53,520 be amazing 1603 00:58:59,190 --> 00:58:56,559 yeah yeah yeah jeff's uh it's just a 1604 00:59:02,150 --> 00:58:59,200 knowledgeable dude man in in all aspects 1605 00:59:03,510 --> 00:59:02,160 um yeah so this is what i'm saying this 1606 00:59:06,789 --> 00:59:03,520 is why i'm coming at lou with 1607 00:59:07,109 --> 00:59:06,799 new things man look i i i gotta give a 1608 00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:07,119 big 1609 00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:10,640 so to to uh all of our followers because 1610 00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:11,040 you know 1611 00:59:15,030 --> 00:59:14,319 you are right they always come up with 1612 00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:15,040 great 1613 00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:18,640 uh suggestions uh questions 1614 00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:21,839 um you know and and 1615 00:59:27,430 --> 00:59:25,119 it's such a big part of of you know 1616 00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:27,440 uh unfolding what whatever is happening 1617 00:59:32,710 --> 00:59:28,640 you know it's not 1618 00:59:34,390 --> 00:59:32,720 me it's not just you it's also everyone 1619 00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:34,400 who's supporting us you know 1620 00:59:39,030 --> 00:59:37,760 they they have they help out you know 1621 00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:39,040 man i couldn't do half of what i do 1622 00:59:43,750 --> 00:59:40,880 without them 1623 00:59:44,549 --> 00:59:43,760 i get leads like things to look at areas 1624 00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:44,559 to research 1625 00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:48,240 things to help me out yeah nice great 1626 00:59:51,270 --> 00:59:50,640 um i've just noticed benji shout out 1627 00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:51,280 benji 1628 00:59:54,870 --> 00:59:53,599 cesium has ton of isotopes which ones 1629 00:59:58,829 --> 00:59:54,880 listen i'm not going to give any more 1630 01:00:04,150 --> 01:00:01,270 um 1631 01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:04,160 i can't spill all the beans no no no 1632 01:00:07,510 --> 01:00:05,760 it's just an example of like it's just 1633 01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:07,520 an example of the area that i'm coming 1634 01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:08,640 from you know with 1635 01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:11,680 thanks to jeff and that um yeah and it 1636 01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:12,480 relates 1637 01:00:17,510 --> 01:00:16,000 to a lot of stuff so yeah 1638 01:00:18,789 --> 01:00:17,520 benji i'm going to keep you on your toes 1639 01:00:22,309 --> 01:00:18,799 brother you got to wait a little bit 1640 01:00:25,750 --> 01:00:24,870 he's one of my he's one of my people 1641 01:00:28,230 --> 01:00:25,760 yeah 1642 01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:28,240 so nice interesting stuff so listen 1643 01:00:33,270 --> 01:00:29,520 let's jump on 1644 01:00:36,390 --> 01:00:33,280 and talk about these dutch cases 1645 01:00:37,990 --> 01:00:36,400 um let's jump into the socialberg case 1646 01:00:41,030 --> 01:00:38,000 man i don't think a lot of people 1647 01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:41,040 really are that familiar with it man um 1648 01:00:44,789 --> 01:00:43,119 i mean i am and i think it's one of my 1649 01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:44,799 most the cases i love 1650 01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:47,680 the best you know it's exciting it's got 1651 01:00:50,710 --> 01:00:49,200 everything it's got the military the 1652 01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:50,720 nukes it's got the 1653 01:00:55,270 --> 01:00:52,960 the craft yeah give us a little give us 1654 01:00:58,789 --> 01:00:55,280 a little overview max 1655 01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:58,799 yeah look do you mean uh the the recap 1656 01:01:02,870 --> 01:00:59,520 of whatever 1657 01:01:05,990 --> 01:01:02,880 whatever the case man the famous case 1658 01:01:10,390 --> 01:01:06,000 okay um so uh 1659 01:01:13,589 --> 01:01:10,400 in 1979 um 1660 01:01:14,309 --> 01:01:13,599 12 dutch military men were witness to a 1661 01:01:17,270 --> 01:01:14,319 uap 1662 01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:17,280 on a military air base but it was not 1663 01:01:21,109 --> 01:01:18,880 just a 1664 01:01:23,990 --> 01:01:21,119 dutch military air base it was actually 1665 01:01:26,069 --> 01:01:24,000 a secret american air base and now we 1666 01:01:28,150 --> 01:01:26,079 know it was called new amsterdam 1667 01:01:31,270 --> 01:01:28,160 but it was in the center of holland cult 1668 01:01:34,390 --> 01:01:31,280 uh in a city called or a 1669 01:01:36,309 --> 01:01:34,400 village called susta berg 1670 01:01:38,789 --> 01:01:36,319 so it was a shared base with the 1671 01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:38,799 americans and the dutch military 1672 01:01:45,030 --> 01:01:41,920 um and now we know 1673 01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:45,040 there were nuclear weapons rocket heads 1674 01:01:51,190 --> 01:01:48,240 this was full-blown cold war so 1675 01:01:53,349 --> 01:01:51,200 you know they were appointed that moscow 1676 01:01:57,750 --> 01:01:53,359 icbms 1677 01:02:01,829 --> 01:01:57,760 yeah minutemen rockets whatever you know 1678 01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:01,839 yeah um but 1679 01:02:08,950 --> 01:02:05,440 in a cold february february morning 1680 01:02:11,349 --> 01:02:08,960 um 12 dutch military men who were 1681 01:02:12,230 --> 01:02:11,359 in charge of security of the the air 1682 01:02:15,430 --> 01:02:12,240 base 1683 01:02:19,270 --> 01:02:15,440 um were witness to a uap 1684 01:02:22,630 --> 01:02:19,280 triangle showing up above the base 1685 01:02:23,109 --> 01:02:22,640 and you have to imagine uh it was pitch 1686 01:02:26,630 --> 01:02:23,119 dark 1687 01:02:30,069 --> 01:02:26,640 but this thing lit up the place 1688 01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:30,079 like it was a summer afternoon you know 1689 01:02:33,829 --> 01:02:33,119 everything was lit up you could read a 1690 01:02:36,309 --> 01:02:33,839 book 1691 01:02:37,109 --> 01:02:36,319 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah not only was 1692 01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:37,119 this thing 1693 01:02:44,470 --> 01:02:40,240 uh without any noise it was 1694 01:02:48,789 --> 01:02:44,480 without any silence it was also 40 1695 01:02:51,190 --> 01:02:48,799 meters uh in size white right 1696 01:02:52,150 --> 01:02:51,200 so that's that's huge that this really 1697 01:02:54,309 --> 01:02:52,160 what 1698 01:02:56,069 --> 01:02:54,319 it was about the size of the the the 1699 01:02:59,270 --> 01:02:56,079 landing streak 1700 01:03:01,990 --> 01:02:59,280 so yeah 1701 01:03:03,510 --> 01:03:02,000 and there were witnesses who saw it 1702 01:03:06,390 --> 01:03:03,520 shooting down a beam 1703 01:03:07,750 --> 01:03:06,400 into the the the silo where the the 1704 01:03:10,470 --> 01:03:07,760 heads were 1705 01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:10,480 and uh it just took off like a bullet 1706 01:03:14,549 --> 01:03:11,520 fire 1707 01:03:16,150 --> 01:03:14,559 bomb but it wasn't just 1708 01:03:18,230 --> 01:03:16,160 the military men who were witness to 1709 01:03:21,109 --> 01:03:18,240 that also civilians in the area 1710 01:03:21,829 --> 01:03:21,119 and there's a very famous account by a 1711 01:03:24,870 --> 01:03:21,839 lady 1712 01:03:28,390 --> 01:03:24,880 um she still talks about it 1713 01:03:30,309 --> 01:03:28,400 you know it's it's it's one of the most 1714 01:03:32,069 --> 01:03:30,319 amazing cases because there were so many 1715 01:03:34,069 --> 01:03:32,079 witnesses yeah 1716 01:03:35,750 --> 01:03:34,079 it's big man it is a big case and it's 1717 01:03:37,349 --> 01:03:35,760 just like i say it's got everything it's 1718 01:03:38,230 --> 01:03:37,359 got all the witnesses the military the 1719 01:03:40,309 --> 01:03:38,240 nuclear 1720 01:03:42,710 --> 01:03:40,319 the triangle i mean what more could you 1721 01:03:44,630 --> 01:03:42,720 want from a case man it's incredible 1722 01:03:46,630 --> 01:03:44,640 yeah so this is why we've got to go 1723 01:03:49,109 --> 01:03:46,640 there man 1724 01:03:50,789 --> 01:03:49,119 yeah i know i i've been there i showed 1725 01:03:53,029 --> 01:03:50,799 you the footage yeah actually 1726 01:03:54,150 --> 01:03:53,039 yeah and you went on your own as well 1727 01:03:56,950 --> 01:03:54,160 didn't you 1728 01:03:57,990 --> 01:03:56,960 like my brother lives like one one mile 1729 01:04:00,390 --> 01:03:58,000 away from from 1730 01:04:01,109 --> 01:04:00,400 that place so and it was his birthday 1731 01:04:05,109 --> 01:04:01,119 and i was like 1732 01:04:07,029 --> 01:04:05,119 let me just take a little 1733 01:04:08,549 --> 01:04:07,039 little turn and i'll i'll check it out 1734 01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:08,559 and 1735 01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:11,440 but the the when i when they're there 1736 01:04:15,750 --> 01:04:12,720 there was stuff 1737 01:04:17,109 --> 01:04:15,760 going on you know um i thought did i 1738 01:04:20,390 --> 01:04:17,119 tell you about it but 1739 01:04:23,589 --> 01:04:20,400 maybe later okay okay yeah 1740 01:04:26,150 --> 01:04:23,599 yeah do you want to talk about it now no 1741 01:04:27,349 --> 01:04:26,160 um oh no wait wait i understand no no i 1742 01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:27,359 know what you're talking about nana it's 1743 01:04:30,230 --> 01:04:28,240 all good it's all good 1744 01:04:32,309 --> 01:04:30,240 i'm gonna jump onto this comment here 1745 01:04:34,390 --> 01:04:32,319 because this is really interesting 1746 01:04:36,789 --> 01:04:34,400 what about the uap filmed from a police 1747 01:04:39,270 --> 01:04:36,799 helicopter over the bristol channel 1748 01:04:39,990 --> 01:04:39,280 so in england um now this is like an 1749 01:04:41,990 --> 01:04:40,000 eight minute 1750 01:04:43,670 --> 01:04:42,000 and i think it's a flircam footage as 1751 01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:43,680 well and this 1752 01:04:47,349 --> 01:04:45,760 yeah this is a case that i've i think 1753 01:04:49,510 --> 01:04:47,359 i've posted the footage to be honest 1754 01:04:50,470 --> 01:04:49,520 a couple of months back but this is 1755 01:04:52,870 --> 01:04:50,480 literally a 1756 01:04:54,230 --> 01:04:52,880 uap tracked on by a helicopter for eight 1757 01:04:56,309 --> 01:04:54,240 minutes 1758 01:04:57,750 --> 01:04:56,319 and no one's really researched the case 1759 01:04:59,589 --> 01:04:57,760 or at least 1760 01:05:01,190 --> 01:04:59,599 examined the flare you know someone that 1761 01:05:02,950 --> 01:05:01,200 knows how to break down what 1762 01:05:04,549 --> 01:05:02,960 what is being seen or what's not being 1763 01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:04,559 seen and things like that 1764 01:05:08,390 --> 01:05:06,640 we see all these flare videos like the 1765 01:05:09,910 --> 01:05:08,400 you know the nimitz cases and the go 1766 01:05:13,029 --> 01:05:09,920 fast and the gimbal 1767 01:05:14,309 --> 01:05:13,039 um the aguadilla puerto rico case um i 1768 01:05:15,910 --> 01:05:14,319 think this police 1769 01:05:17,349 --> 01:05:15,920 case from the bristol channel needs to 1770 01:05:20,150 --> 01:05:17,359 be looked at 1771 01:05:21,430 --> 01:05:20,160 big time um definitely it's a very 1772 01:05:24,710 --> 01:05:21,440 important case it's just 1773 01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:24,720 not been much researched uh yeah yeah i 1774 01:05:29,510 --> 01:05:26,400 i've got it somewhere i'll 1775 01:05:31,270 --> 01:05:29,520 i'll link it to you probably tomorrow by 1776 01:05:33,270 --> 01:05:31,280 the time i get around to it but 1777 01:05:34,470 --> 01:05:33,280 i'll check it out really interesting 1778 01:05:37,589 --> 01:05:34,480 it's really interesting 1779 01:05:38,950 --> 01:05:37,599 i mean it's it's not like a clear object 1780 01:05:41,109 --> 01:05:38,960 it's it's what you would expect from 1781 01:05:42,630 --> 01:05:41,119 flair but there's no 1782 01:05:44,470 --> 01:05:42,640 you know there's no visible propulsion 1783 01:05:46,309 --> 01:05:44,480 output there's no like heat coming off 1784 01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:46,319 of it or anything like that so you know 1785 01:05:48,710 --> 01:05:47,119 that it's 1786 01:05:50,150 --> 01:05:48,720 something strange and they tracked it 1787 01:05:52,230 --> 01:05:50,160 for eight minutes it's not just a 1788 01:05:56,549 --> 01:05:52,240 balloon flying in the wind 1789 01:05:58,390 --> 01:05:56,559 so it really is kind of unknown still 1790 01:06:00,470 --> 01:05:58,400 yeah man it's compelling it's very 1791 01:06:02,630 --> 01:06:00,480 compelling 1792 01:06:04,950 --> 01:06:02,640 maybe that warrants some investigation 1793 01:06:06,470 --> 01:06:04,960 we'll see i don't know 1794 01:06:08,069 --> 01:06:06,480 but yeah that's the thing people 1795 01:06:09,750 --> 01:06:08,079 complain about these clear videos but 1796 01:06:11,190 --> 01:06:09,760 they give so much data you know you know 1797 01:06:12,230 --> 01:06:11,200 that there's no heat coming off them you 1798 01:06:13,910 --> 01:06:12,240 can tell 1799 01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:13,920 things like that you don't get that from 1800 01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:15,680 just a regular video camera 1801 01:06:20,870 --> 01:06:18,720 no no signature exactly yeah totally man 1802 01:06:22,150 --> 01:06:20,880 like it's data driven them videos and 1803 01:06:24,710 --> 01:06:22,160 that's why i really appreciate them 1804 01:06:27,510 --> 01:06:24,720 people say they're sick of seeing these 1805 01:06:29,349 --> 01:06:27,520 blurry videos i think that i think 1806 01:06:32,230 --> 01:06:29,359 that's super interesting man 1807 01:06:34,549 --> 01:06:32,240 you know yeah it's like you see these 1808 01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:34,559 conversations going off on ufo twitter 1809 01:06:37,510 --> 01:06:36,160 from people like mick west going back 1810 01:06:41,510 --> 01:06:37,520 and forth about 1811 01:06:45,029 --> 01:06:41,520 bogey oh man 1812 01:06:48,230 --> 01:06:45,039 so yeah interesting yeah 1813 01:06:51,829 --> 01:06:48,240 hey uh my brother um 1814 01:06:55,109 --> 01:06:51,839 i gotta go no problem man no problem 1815 01:06:59,270 --> 01:06:55,119 uh because i i get texts uh from my 1816 01:07:01,589 --> 01:06:59,280 uh wife and son and yeah i i understand 1817 01:07:03,190 --> 01:07:01,599 i totally understand listen max thank 1818 01:07:04,870 --> 01:07:03,200 you so much for doing this i know it's 1819 01:07:06,950 --> 01:07:04,880 very short notice 1820 01:07:08,630 --> 01:07:06,960 i always wanted you to be my first or 1821 01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:08,640 one of my first guests on here because 1822 01:07:13,109 --> 01:07:10,240 you had me on your channel 1823 01:07:13,670 --> 01:07:13,119 and i needed you know you're my brother 1824 01:07:15,750 --> 01:07:13,680 man 1825 01:07:17,270 --> 01:07:15,760 i think you're awesome and listen we've 1826 01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:17,280 made some promises tonight and we've got 1827 01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:18,960 to stick to them so i am going to come 1828 01:07:22,549 --> 01:07:20,400 out to amsterdam 1829 01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:22,559 i'm going to do it this year so we'll 1830 01:07:27,990 --> 01:07:23,760 start 1831 01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:28,000 we are going to do 1832 01:07:34,390 --> 01:07:31,920 this uh so uh everyone 1833 01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:34,400 looking at this uh there's gonna be a 1834 01:07:37,670 --> 01:07:36,400 road trip 1835 01:07:39,349 --> 01:07:37,680 we're gonna film it we're gonna make a 1836 01:07:40,870 --> 01:07:39,359 video like a little mini movie little 1837 01:07:42,069 --> 01:07:40,880 documentary out of it it's gonna be 1838 01:07:43,589 --> 01:07:42,079 incredible 1839 01:07:45,109 --> 01:07:43,599 so something for everyone to look 1840 01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:45,119 forward to i know i am so 1841 01:07:48,630 --> 01:07:47,280 max i will let you go to your family i'm 1842 01:07:50,710 --> 01:07:48,640 going to go to mine 1843 01:07:51,990 --> 01:07:50,720 thank you to everyone who's been here 1844 01:07:53,190 --> 01:07:52,000 live with us tonight 1845 01:07:55,029 --> 01:07:53,200 and everyone that will watch this 1846 01:07:56,630 --> 01:07:55,039 afterwards i appreciate every single one 1847 01:07:58,230 --> 01:07:56,640 of you making me feel welcome on a new 1848 01:07:59,270 --> 01:07:58,240 platform such as youtube 1849 01:08:01,349 --> 01:07:59,280 yeah if you don't if you're not 1850 01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:01,359 following vinnie uh 1851 01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:04,160 you are that uh you know every person 1852 01:08:08,069 --> 01:08:05,200 who's not following 1853 01:08:19,110 --> 01:08:08,079 vinnie an angel dies right now if you're 1854 01:08:22,709 --> 01:08:21,269 yeah guys thank you so much and i will 1855 01:08:24,550 --> 01:08:22,719 be uploading the other video that i've 1856 01:08:27,030 --> 01:08:24,560 got coming out soon as well i've got 1857 01:08:30,149 --> 01:08:27,040 loads of things in the works so just